In this powerful conversation, Peyton sits down with his longtime mentor and friend, Larry Walkemeyer, to unpack why disciple-making must come before church multiplication, and why so many movements stall when they skip that step.

Drawing from themes in Discipology and Larry’s forthcoming book The Making of a Multiplier, this episode explores the deep connection between time, teaching, and tactics — the three rhythms of Jesus’ disciple-making strategy that ultimately led to explosive Kingdom impact.

Larry shares:

• Why the priesthood of all believers is the theological foundation of mobilization
• How relational disciple-making fuels true multiplication
• A powerful personal vision that reshaped his ministry philosophy
• Why you can’t teach multiplication into existence
• The difference between a “lake mentality” and a “river mentality” church

You’ll also hear stories of everyday believers who became disciple-makers simply because someone walked closely with them long enough for the fire to catch.

If you’re passionate about church planting, leadership development, or seeing movements multiply, this episode will challenge you to slow down, go deep, and mobilize before you multiply.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. DiscipologyBook.com
2. Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
3. NewBreed Training

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What do Van Halen, St. Paul’s Cathedral, and a boring radio station have in common?

For Kris Langham, they were all part of the journey that led him to faith.

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell sit down with Kris Langham, founder of Through the Word, to unpack his remarkable salvation story and the vision behind one of the most accessible Bible engagement tools in the world.

Kris shares how a simple audio Bible teaching format grew into Through the Word, a free app with a 10-minute audio guide for every chapter of the Bible (now approaching 1 million users).

But this conversation goes deeper than technology.

Together, the guys explore:

1. Why most Christians feel anxiety when they hear “go make disciples”
2. The critical difference between discipleship and disciple-making
3. How we often reproduce the way we were discipled, for better or worse
4. Why disciple-making moves at the speed of relationship
5. How introverts might actually make the best disciple-makers
6. How the new Discipology Plan inside the Through the Word app helps everyday believers follow Jesus and take someone with them

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. DiscipologyBook.com
2. Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
3. NewBreed Training

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In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones pulls back the curtain on the long, surprising, and deeply personal journey behind Discipology.

What began as a question while writing Church Plantology turned into a multi-year exploration of how Jesus actually formed disciples who multiplied. Peyton shares how studying Jesus chronologically—not thematically—reshaped his understanding of disciple making, exposed a leadership pipeline problem in the church, and led to the development of the now-central Time, Teaching, and Tactics framework

Along the way, Peyton talks candidly about the challenges of trailblazing a paradigm where little prior research existed, the spiritual weight of the project, and how a season of prayer and unexpected clarity shaped key tools like the Shalom framework. Pete Mitchell guides the conversation with humor and insight, helping surface why Discipology isn’t just another discipleship book, but a reproducible system aimed at mobilizing everyday believers.

If you’ve ever wondered why disciple making feels harder than it should, or how Jesus actually trained people to do it, this episode offers both the origin story and the heart behind Discipology.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• DiscipologyBook.com
• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this episode, Peyton Jones is joined by Elliot Sands, president of Faith First, for a thoughtful and candid conversation about politics, unity, and disciple-making in today’s divided world. From his upbringing as a missionary kid in Nigeria to his work helping Christians navigate cultural and political fractures, Elliot brings a grounded, pastoral perspective to one of the most volatile challenges facing the Church right now.

If you’re a church planter trying to lead faithfully without alienating half your congregation — or wondering how to shepherd people through cultural chaos without losing gospel clarity — this episode will give you language, framework, and hope.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• LiveFaithFirst.org
• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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What if the real problem in the Church isn’t multiplication… but mobilization?

In this episode, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell go deep into Peyton’s new book Discipology: The Art and Science of Making Disciples—and why Jesus’ original training model might be the missing engine behind today’s stalled movements.

Fresh off a trip to Wales (and a bucket-list encounter with punk icon Johnny Rotten), Peyton breaks down the Time, Teaching, and Tactics framework—how Jesus spent three years forming the Twelve, and why most modern discipleship models stop short of real disciple-making.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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In this raw and deeply personal episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell wrestle with heartbreaking news about one of Peyton’s writing heroes, Philip Yancey.

What happens when a trusted Christian voice falls? How do leaders reconcile great theology with moral failure? And what does this moment teach church planters about integrity, temptation, confession, and the danger of hidden lives?

Drawing from Scripture, personal experience, and years in ministry, Peyton and Pete explore why no one simply “wakes up” and chooses failure—and why isolation, secrecy, and unmanaged wounds often precede a fall. They discuss boundaries, accountability, confession, and the hard but necessary question every leader must ask: Who really knows me?

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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Peyton Jones sits down with theologian, historian, and mission scholar Dr. Howard Snyder for a wide-ranging conversation on the gospel, the Kingdom of God, and what it truly means to follow Jesus in a fractured world. Drawing from his newest and most ambitious work, Consider the Lilies: How Jesus Saves People and the Land, Snyder challenges the Church to recover a fuller, more biblical vision of salvation—one that includes not only people, but creation itself.

In this episode, Dr. Snyder explains why much of modern theology has become “too small,” how Scripture reveals God’s covenant not only with humanity but with the land, and why Jesus’ mission cannot be reduced to escaping the world rather than renewing it. The conversation explores discipleship, church planting, justice, stewardship, culture, and why the Church must be prepared to speak faithfully into the decades ahead.

For church planters, pastors, and leaders wrestling with the divide between the spiritual and the tangible, this episode offers a compelling framework for understanding the Kingdom of God as both deeply biblical and urgently relevant for our time.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

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Joshua Brown—known as the Pressure Washing Pastor—joins Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell for one of the most compelling conversations the Church Planter Podcast has had in a long time. From a traumatic childhood and growing up without a father, to burnout in vocational ministry, to building a multi-million-dollar pressure washing business as a platform for disciple-making, Joshua shares a raw, redemptive story of identity, calling, and obedience.

In this episode, Joshua unpacks how marketplace ministry became a powerful context for evangelism, discipleship, and leadership development—training young people, forming character before competency, and multiplying leaders outside the walls of the church. The conversation explores co-vocational ministry, service-based businesses, and why pressure washing (of all things) has become a surprisingly effective tool for mission.

If you’re a church planter wrestling with sustainability, burnout, or how to mobilize disciples beyond Sunday services, this episode will stretch your imagination and challenge your assumptions about what ministry can look like today.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• Pressure Washing Pastor
• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.

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