In this powerful conversation, Peyton sits down with his longtime mentor and friend, Larry Walkemeyer, to unpack why disciple-making must come before church multiplication, and why so many movements stall when they skip that step.

Drawing from themes in Discipology and Larry’s forthcoming book The Making of a Multiplier, this episode explores the deep connection between time, teaching, and tactics — the three rhythms of Jesus’ disciple-making strategy that ultimately led to explosive Kingdom impact.

Larry shares:

• Why the priesthood of all believers is the theological foundation of mobilization
• How relational disciple-making fuels true multiplication
• A powerful personal vision that reshaped his ministry philosophy
• Why you can’t teach multiplication into existence
• The difference between a “lake mentality” and a “river mentality” church

You’ll also hear stories of everyday believers who became disciple-makers simply because someone walked closely with them long enough for the fire to catch.

If you’re passionate about church planting, leadership development, or seeing movements multiply, this episode will challenge you to slow down, go deep, and mobilize before you multiply.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. DiscipologyBook.com
2. Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
3. NewBreed Training

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What do Van Halen, St. Paul’s Cathedral, and a boring radio station have in common?

For Kris Langham, they were all part of the journey that led him to faith.

In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones and Pete Mitchell sit down with Kris Langham, founder of Through the Word, to unpack his remarkable salvation story and the vision behind one of the most accessible Bible engagement tools in the world.

Kris shares how a simple audio Bible teaching format grew into Through the Word, a free app with a 10-minute audio guide for every chapter of the Bible (now approaching 1 million users).

But this conversation goes deeper than technology.

Together, the guys explore:

1. Why most Christians feel anxiety when they hear “go make disciples”
2. The critical difference between discipleship and disciple-making
3. How we often reproduce the way we were discipled, for better or worse
4. Why disciple-making moves at the speed of relationship
5. How introverts might actually make the best disciple-makers
6. How the new Discipology Plan inside the Through the Word app helps everyday believers follow Jesus and take someone with them

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

1. DiscipologyBook.com
2. Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
3. NewBreed Training

Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.

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In this episode of the Church Planter Podcast, Peyton Jones pulls back the curtain on the long, surprising, and deeply personal journey behind Discipology.

What began as a question while writing Church Plantology turned into a multi-year exploration of how Jesus actually formed disciples who multiplied. Peyton shares how studying Jesus chronologically—not thematically—reshaped his understanding of disciple making, exposed a leadership pipeline problem in the church, and led to the development of the now-central Time, Teaching, and Tactics framework

Along the way, Peyton talks candidly about the challenges of trailblazing a paradigm where little prior research existed, the spiritual weight of the project, and how a season of prayer and unexpected clarity shaped key tools like the Shalom framework. Pete Mitchell guides the conversation with humor and insight, helping surface why Discipology isn’t just another discipleship book, but a reproducible system aimed at mobilizing everyday believers.

If you’ve ever wondered why disciple making feels harder than it should, or how Jesus actually trained people to do it, this episode offers both the origin story and the heart behind Discipology.

Resources and Links Mentioned in this Episode:

• DiscipologyBook.com
• Reliant Mission: reliant.org/cpp
• NewBreed Training

Thanks for listening to the church planter podcast. We’re here to help you go where no one else is going and do what no one else is doing to reach people, no one else is reaching.

Make sure to review and subscribe to the show on your favorite podcast service to help us connect with more church planters.