Welcome back to Chill under Pressure! John Carlson joins us today to share his excitement for the FMHero platform and all of the solutions it provides. John just recently joined the FMHero team, and the guys are stoked he's on board. John has a background not only in refrigerants, but also specifically in the world of refrigerant management for grocery stores and supermarkets, understanding their pain points and hurdles stores have to overcome just to keep the ice cream cold. Welcome, John, to Chill Under Pressure!

In this episode, we welcome Renee Tomlinson to the Chill Under Pressure Pod! Renee shares her inspiring journey from receptionist at RSES in 1994 to her current leadership role at ESCO. She discusses the evolution of HVAC training, the critical need for hands-on learning, and the importance of equipping future technicians through early education and industry partnerships. Renee reflects on the generational impact of HVAC education in her own family and the growing support for women in the trades. The conversation also emphasizes ESCO’s focus on adapting curriculum based on regulatory and technological changes, with a commitment to “educate, not legislate.” Thanks for joining us today, Renee!

The guys are joined by Kate Houghton, Senior Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Hudson. Kate talks through the basics - What is "Recovery" and "Reclamation" of refrigerants, and the role of technicians in ensuring effective recovery. Welcome, Kate, to Chill Under Pressure!