In this episode, Pat interviews “Gena,” who recently spent some time in prison. With honesty and a little humor, “Gena” shares her journey of incarceration and the challenges of everyday life behind bars. We discover how many bags of ramen it costs to get your hair braided in prison, revealing the unique bartering economy that exists inside. “Gena” also discusses the support systems that helped her during her sentence. This raw and eye-opening conversation offers listeners a genuine glimpse into prison life and the resilience of the human spirit. The episode's thumbnail artwork was drawn by one of “Gena’s” fellow inmates, with “Gena” herself pictured on the far right.

After an unexpected hiatus due to a health scare, Pat and Lisa return with an update before diving into a chat about how people approach birthdays.

In this episode, host Pat welcomes her longtime friends Joyce and Lou Ann from Indiana for a chat about the enduring power of friendship. With her wife Lisa joining the discussion, they talk about their heated tournament-style showdown of the card game Euchre. There were some technical difficulties along the way, so the chat with Joyce and Lou Ann was cut shorter than planned, but they hope to reconnect with them soon.