For Suicide Prevention Month, Change Happened, Then What? returns to Lisa Sugarman’s story.

Lisa was ten years old when her father died. For the next 35 years, she believed he had suffered a heart attack. Then an ordinary conversation with her mother revealed the truth: her father had died by suicide.

That discovery forced Lisa to grieve him all over again and reconsider beliefs she had carried for decades. In this Encore episode, Lisa talks about grief, anger, her mother’s years of silence, continuing bonds with the people we lose, and the advocacy work she was already doing when Heather first spoke with her.

Lisa is also co-host of The Survivors Podcast, where conversations about suicide, trauma, grief, mental health, and survival continue.

Content note: This episode discusses suicide and suicide loss.

If you or someone you know is struggling, call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Suicide-loss resources are available through the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention at afsp.org/loss.

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Tina Erwin built her life around discipline, responsibility, and facts. But long before she understood what it meant, moments of instinct—and eventually a voice she couldn't explain—kept appearing when the stakes were highest.

In Part One of this two-part story, Tina looks back on coming of age during the Vietnam era, surviving dangerous experiences in Central and South America, challenging authority when her instincts told her something was wrong, and building a career in the U.S. Navy at a time when women were still pushing through barriers inside the service. Through it all, one question quietly follows her: When something inside you says pay attention, how do you know when to trust it?

This is not a story about proving the paranormal. It's a story about intuition, leadership, responsibility, women in the military, and the experiences that slowly changed the way Tina understood herself.

Tina Erwin is a retired U.S. Navy officer and author whose later work explores grief, spiritual experiences, and what she describes as service to both the living and the dead.

Listen to Part One of Tina's story, then follow Change Happened, Then What? so you don't miss the conclusion.

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Generational trauma, generational healing, mindfulness, and Generation Alpha come together in Part Two of Queen’s story.

After tracing her maternal ancestry to the Fula people of Guinea-Bissau, Queen began thinking differently about what families carry from one generation to the next. Her belief is simple but powerful: if trauma can travel through a bloodline, healing can move through it, too.

But for Queen, looking backward is only part of the story.

Her attention turns toward the generation coming next.

Drawing on 27 years as an educator, Queen created 52 Insights for Gen Alpha: A Conscious Curriculum, designed to help young people develop self-awareness, mindfulness, relationship skills, social awareness, and conscious decision-making in a world that has been digital since the day they were born.

In Part Two, Queen talks about returning home to care for her parents, losing them within ten months of each other, reconnecting with her ancestry, and how those experiences eventually became connected to her work with children.

Because perhaps healing what came before us also changes what we hand to those who come after.

Topics include: generational trauma, generational healing, Generation Alpha, mindfulness for children, social emotional learning, ancestry, caregiving, conscious parenting, education, emotional intelligence, family patterns, and breaking generational cycles.

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