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Today’s Episode:

On Wednesday, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney announced that the Canadian government will recognize a Palestinian State at the United Nations meeting set for September. On Tuesday, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer declared that the UK will do the same – that is, unless Israel (and only Israel) meets a set of conditions. Canada and France followed the lead of French President Emanuel Macron, who announced a few days ago that France will recognize a Palestinian State at the September UN meeting.

These developments come as Israel’s global image plummets, according to a recent Gallup survey.

To discuss how we got to this point – where Israel’s response to Hamas’ October 7th attack is prompting European countries to recognize a Palestinian State – we are joined by Ari Shavit, former correspondent at Haaretz and author of the award winning book My Promised Land.

Before the interview, we take a moment to remember Wesley LePatner.

Item discussed in this episode: “In Memory of Wesley LePatner, a cherished friend.” By Caroline Tell. Please click here to read.

CREDITS:

ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor

MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing

MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research

YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

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Today’s Episode:

On Thursday, French President Emanuel Macron announced that France will recognize a Palestinian state at the UN meeting set to take place in September. France will become the first major Western country to recognize a Palestinian state, prompting many to wonder if this will set off a chain reaction. Is it possible that Hamas’ savage attack could set off a chain of events that results in the establishment of a Palestinian state?

Meanwhile, there has been a lot of press in recent days about starvation among Gazans. Research by Yannay Spitzer of Hebrew University on the price of flour in the Gaza Strip has convinced many reluctant Israelis that this time, unlike before, the reports of starvation are real. In response, Israel announced that it will halt military operations for 10 hours a day in parts of the strip, as Jordan and the UAE resumed airdrops of humanitarian aid.

To discuss the food crisis and the significance of President Macron’s declaration, we were joined by Call me Back contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal.

(00:00) Introduction

(04:44) Vote for a Palestinian state

(08:04) Hunger crisis in Gaza?

(28:05) Hostage and ceasefire negotiations

(30:55) Could 10/7 go down as Independence Day for the Palestinians?

(39:21) Retrospective on Israel’s strategy

(46:59) What happens to the hostages?

(51:40) Outro

CREDITS:

ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor

MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing

MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research

YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcast

Check out Ark Media’s other podcasts:

• For Heaven's Sake: lnk.to/rfGlrA
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For sponsorship inquiries, please contact: callmeback@arkmedia.org

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Today’s Episode:

Last week, we witnessed the eruption of violent aggression on behalf of the Syrian government and local Bedouin tribes against Syria’s southern Druze community, leaving more than 1,400 people dead. The Druze are a community that also has deep roots in Israel, and over 1,000 Israeli Druze citizens crossed the Israel-Syria border to support their brothers and sisters being attacked.

In response, Israel launched a series of strikes against military facilities in Damascus, prompting widespread global criticism. As of Saturday, all sides have agreed to a ceasefire. However, we are still seeing reports and videos on social media of Druze being attacked in Southern Syria.

Many are asking what to make of Syria’s new leader, Ahmed al-Sharaa, a former Al Qaeda affiliate who claims to have moderated. People are also wondering to what extent Turkey – a supporter of the new Syrian regime – played a role in what’s unfolded in Syria.

Joining us to discuss – and at points, debate – these complex questions are Charles Lister, senior fellow and director of the Syria Initiative at the Middle East Institute, and Hay Eitan Cohen Yanarocak, researcher of modern-day Turkey at the Moshe Dayan Center for Middle Eastern and African Studies at Tel Aviv University.

(00:00) Introduction

(05:05) What happened in Syria?

(11:16) The involvement of Turkey

(15:06) The U.S. response to Israel’s intervention in Syria

(31:20) Turkey’s ambition

(37:51) Did Israel make a mistake?

(43:45) Outro

CREDITS:

ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor

MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing

MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research

YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer