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Today’s Episode:

Benjamin Birely, a classical historian and the influencer behind HolyLandSpeaks, joins Dan to discuss why being a Jew in Italy these days is to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. From signs outside businesses announcing that “Zionists are not welcome,” to Jewish academics being rejected from public spaces, to cultural events getting hijacked by the anti-Israel cause, the entire country seems to be consumed by militant anti-Zionism. Should Italian Jew be worried about their future? And what does this tell us about the broader political mood in the West?

CREDITS:

ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer

MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor

MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing

MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research

YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

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Today’s Episode:

This past Thursday, Dan sat down with Ark Media contributors Nadav Eyal and Amit Segal for a live Call me Back conversion at the Streiker Center in New York City. They discussed a range of issues related to Israeli and Jewish society and the October 7 war. They also took questions from some Inside Call me Back subscribers who were in the room.

(00:00) Introduction

(07:20) Summarizing the past two years

(10:51) The heroism of Aner Shapira

(14:42) Israel’s strength after the horror of October 7

(20:48) Diaspora Jews under attack

(27:15) International criticism of Israel and Israeli self-examination

(42:25) Debate on the hostage dilemma

(52:14) The next few months Gaza

(57:24) Will Netanyahu stay in power?

(1:02:55) Amit’s book (A Call at 4am)

CREDITS:

ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer

MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor

MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing

MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research

YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer

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Ronen Bergman and Adam Rasgon’s piece in The NYT: https://bit.ly/475B5nF

Ilan Benatar’s essay on Sinwar’s plan: https://medium.com/@ilanbenatar/the-story-is-the-war-f6482ab94c1f

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Today’s Episode:

On today’s episode, we are joined by Israeli journalist and Call me Back veteran Ronen Bergman. Ronen recently published a piece for the New York Times titled “A Memo in a Bunker, Intercepted Communications and Hamas’ Oct. 7 Plans,” in which he and his co-author Adam Rasgon discuss a recently uncovered six-page memo from August of 2024, which Israeli officials believe was written by Yayha Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza and main architect of the October 7 massacre. Dan and Ronen discuss how this memo – as well as other documents discovered earlier in the war – shed light onto Hamas’s goals in launching the attack, and whether, in retrospect, they succeeded.

(00:00) - Introduction

(07:23) - Sinwar’s memo recently discovered in Gaza

(09:45) - How Hamas meticulously documented its activity

(12:42) - How do we know this was written by Sinwar?

(13:51) - What this document directed Hamas forces to do

(15:15) - Hamas terrorists ordered to record and broadcast their crimes

(20:20) - Sinwar’s strategy behind broadcasting October 7

(26:03) - What Sinwar got right, and what he got wrong

(28:53) - How Hamas activated support worldwide

(33:39) - 10 Hamas protocols obtained by the IDF in January, 2024

(37:25) - How Hamas managed to deceive Israel

(38:43) - How Hamas chose the date of October 7, 2023

(42:47) - Collaboration between Hamas in Doha and in Gaza

(44:33) - Sinwar’s goal of igniting regional war

(46:17) - Disrupting Saudi normalization and releasing Palestinian prisoners

(49:04) - Sinwar succeeded at terrifying Israelis

(50:46) - The next phase in Gaza will determine the outcome of the war

CREDITS:

ILAN BENATAR - Producer & Editor

ADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive Producer

MARTIN HUERGO - Sound Editor

MARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional Editing

MAYA RACKOFF - Operations Director

GABE SILVERSTEIN - Research

YUVAL SEMO - Music Composer