In this episode, SK dives into the controversy surrounding Netflix’s The Manhattan Alien Abduction, the docuseries based on the research and book, Witnessed: The True Story of the Brooklyn Bridge UFO Abductions by Budd Hopkins.
SK is joined by experiencer and author Debra Jordan-Kauble, who shares her firsthand perspective on the key figures in the documentary - Carol Rainey, Budd Hopkins and Linda Napolitano.
Deb highlights Hopkins’ investigative work — and why she believes the documentary misrepresented both Hopkins and Linda Napolitano (formerly Linda Cortile).
Debra recounts her own 1983 abduction experience, including startling physical evidence: an 8-foot circular ground mark that repelled water, altered snow patterns, and triggered Geiger counter readings.
She describes the extensive 2.5-year investigation conducted by Hopkins for his book, Intruders (and eventually a CBS miniseries) — including soil testing, medical exams, psychological evaluations, and witness interviews. Deb clarifies how hypnotic regression was used carefully to sharpen existing memories, not create new ones.
The conversation also explores:
- The ethics of hypnosis in abduction research
- Media portrayal vs. firsthand testimony
- Physical trace evidence in UFO cases
- Psychic abilities emerging after contact experiences
- Personal growth through trauma
- Debra’s post-death communication experience with Hopkins
Was the Netflix series balanced — or did it “do Linda dirty,” as Debra suggests?
Music: “Wisdom in the Sun” by Kevin MacLeod
You can find Deb’s books and upcoming events at debshome.com
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