Alright, so here's the thing. Bob has had Jack on the phone many times over the years, but he has never been in the studio. Well, that all changed this week. Meet, finally, Jack Chavez. Jack is a Swiss Army Knife of paranormal knowledge. He's a brilliant researcher who knows something about a lot of things. Including, but not limited to, cryptids, ghosts, demons, angels, local haunts, phantom clowns, and phantom kangaroos.

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Week two of Paranormal Researchers month, we welcome back to the show Rebecca and Pat from Ghostly Podcast. They are an interesting duo with Rebecca being the believer and Pat being a skeptic, they debate ghost stories. We dive into their pasts and look at why Rebecca is more researcher then hunter when it comes to the paranormal, and why one Buddhist's line changed Pat to being a skeptic forever.

What's the number one thing a paranormal researcher needs to prove what they find? Evidence. Not in the case of Jon-Erik Beckjord. Jon was a paranormal investigator whom studied Bigfoot, Lochness Monster, and UFO's. On this episode, we look at the strange case of Jon, and how his lack there of evidence made him quite the spectacle.