In this episode of We The People, Gates Garcia sits down with Billy Hallowell and Ryan Bethea — hosts of The Playing With Fire Podcast — for a fascinating look at spiritual warfare, miracles, and the growing cultural interest in the supernatural.

Billy and Ryan have interviewed everyone from exorcists to deliverance ministers, and they share firsthand accounts of what they’ve learned along the way. They discuss the rising number of exorcisms in the U.S., what Hollywood gets wrong about spiritual darkness, and why skepticism can actually deepen faith.

Together, they explore the biblical worldview of evil, modern-day miracles, and why ignoring the supernatural doesn’t make it go away. Whether you’re a believer or a skeptic, this conversation invites you to examine the unseen battle playing out around us.

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