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Beyond Hierarchies: Collective Intelligence at Scale

Beyond Hierarchies: Collective Intelligence at Scale

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 Jean-François Noubel, visionary thinker and researcher in the field of collective intelligence, explains that for collective intelligence to truly scale, we must both see and be seen. Like in a jazz band, where every player senses the whole to improvise in harmony, societies also need a reciprocal view of the whole—only on a much larger scale.Known for his work on how humanity can evolve beyond ego-centered systems, Jean-François explores how narratives, language, and invisible architectures shape the way we organize ourselves, and how emerging technologies can help us transcend the limitations of pyramidal power structures.In this conversation, he shares stories and insights that reveal how myths, grammar, and currencies act as the social DNA of our systems—and why re-designing them may be essential for humanity’s next evolutionary step.Watch this episode on YouTubeListen to this episode:Apple PodcastsSpotifyPocket CastsRSS FeedThemes:The Power of Stories and Myths – How narratives guide consciousness and collective action.Paradigms and Unstated Assumptions – The invisible beliefs that shape our systems and behaviors.Language as Invisible Architecture – How grammar and words embed domination and possibility.The Middleman and Pyramidal Systems – Why concentration of power creates fragility.Distributed Technologies – Designing resilient, living systems for the future.TimestampsOpening & Framing00:00 — Collective intelligence in small groups vs pyramidal systems01:43 — Sponsor: Holochain Foundation & Lucas’ personal journey02:59 — Introducing Jean-François Noubel & his visionStories & Narratives04:53 — Why stories and myths are the strongest forces in human evolution07:16 — Narratives as holograms of culture and consciousness08:12 — Paradigms and Donella Meadows’ “Leverage Points”Paradigms & Assumptions09:58 — Hidden cultural assumptions: gender, slavery, eating animals12:18 — Invisible architectures: language, currency, time, and codes14:38 — Challenging assumptions: veganism, language, and thingificationLanguage & Grammar16:56 — Patriarchy embedded in grammar18:46 — Removing the verb to be and reducing “social violence”21:11 — Language as domination vs language as responsibility22:17 — Causality vs synchronicity: why our languages limit perceptionTechnology & Evolution24:04 — Written language and centralization of power26:17 — From oral to pyramidal systems: writing as keystone technology28:43 — Scarcity currencies and concentration of power32:23 — The role of the middleman (agents, rules, data)34:44 — Why bureaucracies grow and become self-servingDisintermediation36:36 — Concentration of money and power: systemic feedback loops38:33 — Limits of the middleman and blockchain’s shortcomings40:16 — Distributed living systems and decision-making43:31 — Pyramidal bottlenecks vs distributed resilience45:07 — Humanity’s evolutionary need for distributed intelligence47:32 — New grammars for synchronicity and emergenceCurrencies & Agreements49:29 — Meta-grammar for agreements51:22 — Designing currencies as living stories52:59 — How the Holochain story has evolved over the yearsAI & Holopticism55:20 — Artificial intelligence as augmented collective intelligence57:20 — Wrapping up: Holopticism as sensing the whole togetherClosing58:10 — Outro & invitation to subscribeResources and References📖 A Brief History of Everything – Ken Wilber📜 Leverage Points: Places to Intervene in a System – Donella Meadows📜 Towards a Commons Culture – Paul Krafel🏆 Elinor Ostrom’s Nobel Prize work on Design Principles for the CommonsTranscriptJean-François Noubel (00:00.322)From a collective intelligence perspective, the best setting as human beings, we do play sports in small teams. The jazz bands, we start as a small group and the family. So we have a cognitive system optimized for small groups. But it has limitations. When you want to do big things, it can't work. You need to unite more people. So we shifted to pyramidal collective intelligence.It has centralized power, chain of command, labor division, and a scarce currency. Because the scarcity of currency will create the concentration of power. One of the properties that we like in small groups, we call it holopticism. A holos, a hole, and opticism, see the hole. And so I know what I can do in my sports team or in my jazz band becauseI have a representation of the whole. I know what the whole does, so I know what actions I can do in the whole. Every time you have a pyramidal structure, you let a minority of people to deal with something so big, they can't embrace the complexity. If you don't give them augmented holopticism, which distributed systems will need to provide, then they can't work. You hitthe glass wall.Lucas Tauil (01:43.48)This episode is brought to you by the Holochain Foundation. Holochain is creating technology that allows people to team up, share ...
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