Is Genesis 1 a mere heading, or the making of a cosmic temple? In this episode of Between Two Realms, Pastor Andre reads "the heavens and the earth" as two registers of one cosmos: the material realm and an invisible realm that is equally real, with everything visible created to point beyond itself and turn our eyes upward to God.

From the three heavens and Paul's third-heaven vision, to Psalm 8 where David moves from stars to man to angels in one thought, to the tabernacle patterned after a heavenly original and Eden as a garden temple meant to fill the earth, this is creation read as one great temple, with C.S. Lewis's warning against chronological snobbery along the way, and an answer to a culture that only asks what the stars are made of, never why they are there.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Cold open: why stars and planets were worshipped

00:24 Title sequence

00:34 Everything visible points beyond itself

03:23 Two registers: material and immaterial

06:33 The three heavens: upward, upward, upward

11:00 Stars point to angels

16:46 Reading the two books: scripture and nature

18:41 The tabernacle patterned after heaven

21:52 The cosmic temple and Eden's commission

26:15 Angels at the dawn of creation

REFERENCED ALONG THE WAY

- C.S. Lewis: chronological snobbery, confusing what a thing is with

what it is made of, and the singing at the dawn of Narnia

- J.R.R. Tolkien: the singing over the dawn of creation in his myth

- Michael Heiser on the ancient and modern views of the stars, and Eden

- Thomas Aquinas on Isaiah 14 and the space where only God is

- Meredith Kline on the archetype in heaven and its ectype on earth

- G.K. Beale on the temple's three divisions

- Scripture: Genesis 1, Job 38, Psalm 8, Proverbs 8, Isaiah 14,

2 Corinthians 12, Colossians 1, Hebrews 8 and 9, Revelation 12

Watch on YouTube: [EP03-LINK]

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Michael Heiser called it the unseen realm: the world Scripture describes and the modern West has stopped seeing. Look around the room you are sitting in and name what is real. Most of us stop at the books, the walls, the chair, the things we can see and touch. But if we believe the Bible, God made things visible and invisible, and both are fully real.

In this second episode of Between Two Realms, Pastor Andre builds on episode one and the experience of disenchantment, asking whether even Christians quietly live as functional deists: believing God is out there, but not that he really interacts with us or our world. Drawing on Michael Heiser, Hans Boersma and Meredith Kline, he makes the case that Scripture assumes one cosmos in two registers, visible and invisible, both central to the gospel.

Not two separate universes: one creation, two registers, one Lord, one story.

CHAPTERS

00:00 Cold open: name what is real in your room

00:28 Title sequence

00:39 What is real? Visible and invisible

02:49 Do we live like functional deists?

10:47 Michael Heiser and the unseen realm

15:10 Boersma: creation as a window, not a wall

18:42 One creation, two registers

24:47 The seeker's tragedy

27:18 Strange passages as windows

29:30 How we lost the sacred: buffered vs porous

32:51 Ravenous for the supernatural

38:19 Not fear, not sensationalism, but theology

REFERENCED ALONG THE WAY

- Michael Heiser, The Unseen Realm, and Psalm 82 on the divine council

of the Elohim

- Meredith Kline on the cosmos in two registers, the upper (invisible)

and lower (visible)

- Hans Boersma, Heavenly Participation, and the sacramental tapestry:

creation as a window rather than a wall

- Charles Taylor on the buffered versus the porous self

- C.S. Lewis, The Discarded Image, on the crowded pre-modern sky

- Christian Smith on moralistic therapeutic deism

- Colossians 1:16 ("all things were created... visible and invisible")

and the Nicene Creed on things visible and invisible

- Genesis 1:1 (the heavens and the earth), and the strange passages

Heiser reads as windows: the witch of Endor, the rich man and

Lazarus, and 1 Peter on Christ preaching to the imprisoned spirits

Episode 1 (start here, the experience of disenchantment): https://youtu.be/qFfqp0d3H9o

Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/g3DvbNGN2rE

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Has modern life left us disenchanted? Why do so many people struggle to believe that the world is more than matter and mechanism? In this first episode of Between Two Realms, we explore the loss of the biblical supernatural worldview and why recovering it is essential for Christian faith today.

Drawing on Scripture, church history, and the insights of thinkers such as Charles Taylor and Michael Heiser, we consider how the Bible presents reality as both visible and invisible, where heaven and earth overlap and God's kingdom breaks into the ordinary world.

Whether you're interested in biblical theology, Christian worldview, angels and demons, heaven and earth, spiritual warfare, or the history of Christian thought, this episode lays the foundation for everything to come in the series.

In this episode:

• What is "disenchantment"?
• How the modern world lost its supernatural vision
• The Bible's view of the visible and invisible creation
• Why recovering wonder matters for Christian discipleship
• How Scripture reshapes the way we see reality

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About Between Two Realms

Between Two Realms explores the Bible's vision of the visible and invisible creation through biblical theology, church history, and the great Christian tradition. Our aim is to recover the supernatural worldview of Scripture and discover how it transforms theology, worship, and everyday life.