In Episode 14 of Between Two Hats, Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Scott Tinkham, VP of Construction at ILE Homes, for a deep dive into the Single Family Rental (SFR) industry and what it takes to succeed in today’s market.

From his unexpected start in the limousine business to leading construction and rehab projects in real estate, Scott shares the lessons he’s learned about people, partnerships, and scaling in a competitive industry. The conversation explores everything from property management strategies and rehab decisions to why flooring choices like vinyl plank are changing the game.

Scott also opens up about the challenges of bidding at the courthouse, why market trends demand smarter investment decisions, and how building trust with contractors and vendors can make or break your success. Above all, he emphasizes that the future of SFR isn’t just about properties—it’s about relationships, transparency, and partnerships that last.

Whether you’re an investor, property manager, or just curious about the evolution of SFR and real estate construction, this episode is packed with insights on where the industry is headed and how to stay ahead.


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In this deeply reflective episode of Between 2 Hats, hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton sit down with Bobby Triplett—former music pastor turned real estate leader—to unpack the raw truths of fatherhood, friendship, and personal growth.

From his early dreams of rock stardom to becoming a key figure in the SFR (Single-Family Rental) and BTR (Build-to-Rent) real estate space, Bobby shares a powerful journey marked by faith, resilience, and emotional intelligence. Through honest conversation and moments of laughter, the trio explores the challenges of raising boys, balancing nurturing and discipline, and maintaining identity through career transitions.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating the intersection of parenting, career, leadership, and manhood. Whether you're a father, mentor, or simply on a path of personal development, you’ll walk away with practical insights and a renewed perspective on life, values, and relationships.

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What happens when three leaders drop the filter and get real about culture, politics, leadership, and what it actually takes to grow a business that lasts?

In Episode 12, Darren Williams—President of Portico Property Management—joins hosts Patrick Osman and Phillip Burton for a wide-ranging, unfiltered conversation that starts with cigars and ends with hard truths about America, company culture, emotional intelligence, and how to lead without ego.

You’ll hear:

Why culture beats strategy—every single time

How emotional intelligence shapes great leadership

What Japan can teach America about systems, crime, and civility

Honest takes on immigration, politics, and patriotism

Why the moderate middle is where real change happens

How to protect company culture as you scale

Whether you’re in property management, entrepreneurship, or just sick of echo chambers, this episode will challenge your assumptions and leave you thinking deeper.

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