Do you find yourself hitting every goal and still asking "what's next?" Our guest, Meghan French Dunbar, has a name for that loop — and it lives in the same part of your brain as addiction. In this episode, Michelle and Sophia sit down with the "business anthropologist" and bestselling author of This Isn't Working to unpack why your worth isn't tied to your work, how to actually define your values (hint: keep it to five), and why the "soft skills" we undervalue are really leadership skills. Whether you're heading to college or running a team, this conversation will stick with you.

📖 Grab a copy of Meghan's book This Isn't Working

→ meghanfrenchdunbar.com

📲 Follow her on Instagram → @meghanfrenchdunbar

Timestamps:

1. 00:00 — Meet Meghan French Dunbar

2. 04:25 — Follow What Lights You Up & the 3 Pillars of Flourishing

3. 19:56 — Defining Your Values (The Funeral Question)

4. 27:01 — Holistic Leadership: Why "Soft Skills" Are Leadership Skills

5. 32:05 — Why Your Boss Affects You More Than Your Spouse

Natasha Arvinte-Hickey grew up in post-Soviet Moldova, where a cold apartment and two unemployed parents taught her exactly what scarcity feels like. Today she coaches leaders and teams across Europe and Asia — and her message is not what you'd expect.

In this conversation, Michelle and Sophia ask Natasha why great players so often make a terrible team, why friction is a signal instead of a problem, and what leaders keep getting wrong about layoffs and AI. Her answer to almost everything comes back to one thing: most of us don't actually know ourselves. Learning that, she says, is the anchor everything else hangs on.

Connect with Natasha:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/natasha-arvinte-hickey-63a56077

Time Stamps:

00:00 — Meet Natasha: From Moldova to Dublin
07:20 — Why Great Players Don't Make a Great Team
13:54 — Friction Is a Signal, Not a Problem
18:53 — Leading People Through AI, Layoffs, and Change
31:26 — The Skills AI Can't Replace (Plus Natasha's 3 Pieces of Advice)

A closet cleanout and a country dance floor. That's all it took for Sophia to land two income streams she never went looking for.

In this episode, Sophia walks Michelle through how clothes that were headed for the donation bin turned into about $60 on Depop — including the tank top that sold within hours after racking up nearly 1,000 views. Then the story takes a turn. One night of line dancing in Arizona put her across from a 24-year-old art broker, which led to a private gallery tour, an hour-long crash course in selling $30K–$100K art, and a commission offer.

Links mentioned:

1. Depop (resale app) → www.depop.com

2. David Yarrow, fine art photographer discussed in the gallery segment → davidyarrow.photography

00:00 — Two Summer Hustles Nobody Planned

01:06 — The Closet Cleanout That Became a Business

06:59 — Handwritten Notes & 5-Star Reviews: Building Trust as a Seller

08:13 — A Country Dance Floor, an Art Broker, and a Gallery Invite

13:56 — Inside High-End Art Sales: Investment vs. Emotion, Follow-Up, and the Commission Offer

Tired but wired. That's what Sophia described — and her Aura ring confirmed it with a flat cortisol line stuck at the top of the graph all day long. In this candid mother-daughter conversation, Michelle and Sophia unpack the real cost of constant scrolling, why "rest" on your phone isn't actually rest, and how cortisol, carbs, and dopamine hits are quietly running the show for high achievers. Michelle shares the practices that have helped her through every season (including menopause), and together they map out a real plan for Sophia's last two months of high school. Relaxation, it turns out, is a skill.

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Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

What if a one-person company could be worth a billion dollars — and an AI agent named Henry could call you on the phone tomorrow because you told it to figure out how? That's not science fiction. It's happening right now.

Jack just got back from the Abundance 360 Summit in LA — Peter Diamandis' invite-only mastermind packed with Elon Musk, Eric Schmidt, and the founders of Circle and Solana.

In this episode, Sophia gets the full download: self-learning AI agents, stable coins reshaping global money, Harvard scientists reversing cellular aging in human trials, and why Elon thinks our economy could be 10X bigger in just 10 years.

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Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

Is Gen Z actually set up to win—or just feeling the pressure of a world that's changing faster than any generation before them? In this episode, Michelle and Sophia get real about what it's like to be young right now. They dig into why Gen Z won't work hard unless they actually care, how AI is reshaping every career path, and what this generation's relationship with social media is costing them—financially and mentally. Plus, Sophia shares what parents are getting wrong and what kids actually need to thrive. This one's worth sharing.

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

When everything around you feels uncertain, the instinct is to pull back. But what if that's exactly the wrong move?

In this episode, Michelle and Sophia get real about what's happening in businesses and nonprofits right now — revenue is down, campaigns are underperforming, and teams are losing steam. Sophia shares what she's navigating firsthand as a student leader overseeing 150+ volunteers for Blood Cancer United's high school fundraising campaign. Together, they break down what's actually working: leaning into human connection, doubling down on warm leads, re-energizing your team with action, and staying in the game when quitting feels easier.

The takeaway? In tough times, staying in is already winning.

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.

Wars, AI, rising gas prices — the world feels like it's on fire right now. And that's exactly why this episode matters.

Jack Bosch — the nation's top land investing expert (and Sophia's dad!) — joins the podcast to break down how today's global chaos is actually creating one of the best moments in recent history to invest in land.

From Middle East conflicts driving doomsday-prepper demand, to AI reshaping the job market and pushing more people toward affordable rural living, Jack unpacks why every major macro trend right now is pointing in the same direction: land. He also covers why interest rates are likely heading down, which types of land will see the biggest demand surge, and how Starlink and solar are making off-grid living a real option for millions of Americans.

🔗 Learn more about land investing at landcoaching.com

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ABOUT MICHELLE: 🤯 🚀

Michelle Bosch is the CEO and co-founder of Orbit Investments and has been a full-time real estate investor since 2002.

She has bought and sold thousands of pieces of real estate and built the 3rd largest land investment and auction company in the US, bringing that company successfully into the 8-figure revenues in a matter of 18 months. She also invests in multi-family real estate with over 1,000 units and $70 million in assets under management.

Michelle Co-Hosts together with her teenage daughter, Sophia Bosch the "Becoming Wealthy" Podcast granting women an insider's view on wealth creation and paving the way for a new generation of savvy and financially independent women.