LINKS TO THE NEW FEED:

• Inside Story on Spotify: HERE
• Inside Story on iTunes: HERE

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On this Episode, We’re kicking off Our New Podcast "Inside Story" by turning the mic toward ATC co-host T.J. Wilson (Type Nine).

This is a spacious, honest conversation about Nine life from inside —how “gut knowing” actually shows up, why autonomy matters so much to body types, and what conflict feels like when it lands in the body. T.J. names the costs of keeping the peace, the sideways ways anger can surface, and the mantra that’s changing his relationship to procrastination (“later is not a point in time”).

Along the way we get practical: decision-making when everything feels equally important, how merging can be a superpower and a trap, why stable presence draws Sixes, and what Nines need most from the people who love them (space, time, permission—and an endpoint).

Also, check out Kristin's excellent work here:

• Life Uninhibited – The Enneagram 6 Podcast (Kristin’s flagship show): kristinmessegee.com/podcasts/life-uninhibited-the-enneagram-6-podcast Kristin Messegee
• Kristin’s website (coaching for Sixes): kristinmessegee.com Kristin Messegee
• Zero to Sixy (Kristin’s community/program): kristinmessegee.com/zero-to-sixy-2 Kristin Messegee
• Instagram: @enneagram_6_coach instagram.com

Many of you know we have a handful of things going on both personally and here at ATC; this is all the fun stuff and hard stuff.

In this podcast we’ll be talking about everything from the end of one chapter to the opening of another.

You can see all our new Podcast feeds at Our Enneagram Channel : HERE

Quick Links:

• Saturday Online Workshops
• Free membership at AroundTheCircle.org
• Early Access podcast – Coming soon for the next-gen transitions
• Inside Story podcast – Kristin Messegee's interview series
• Scientific Enneagram – Danielle Fuller’s science + Enneagram series
• Start Here podcast (re-launching foundational series)

Jeff and TJ sit down with Kristin Messegee—an Enneagram Six coach and the host of Life Uninhibited—to announce her new narrative-style show, "Inside Story" joining the ATC family of podcasts.

We talk why real growth needs empathy, why stories teach better than diagrams, and how narrative Enneagram work helps us become emotional adults.

• Subscribe to Kristin's new Podcast : HERE

• Follow Kristin’s work: Coaching + Life Uninhibited – The Enneagram 6 Podcast. kristinmessegee.com+2kristinmessegee.com+2

• And if you want to get connected our best work, do sign up for a membership on Patreon .

Early Access on iTunes: HERE

Early Access on Spotify: HERE

Enneagram and Gender Discussion : HERE

Music is by GIANTS AND PILGRIMS

Katie's Work : HERE

Continuing her journey around the Enneagram, Katie talks to Meaghan, a freelance American Sign Language interpreter who loves traveling, new restaurants, and advocating for the deaf community.

We talk about the difference between anger and rage, how your childhood environment sticks with you, and get into some differences between 6 and 8.

Jeff sits back down with Enneagram coach Jackie Contessa to walk through mistyping between twos and threes through nines.

If this helps, check the full Mistyping Chart Jackie co-authored in the back of our book Around the Circle . Or find Jackie at @tablefornineco and jackieccesa.com.

Link to the upcoming EnneaSummit : HERE

Link to all of our other work : HERE

Jeff sits down with Tyler Zach to preview his upcoming Midlife Summit (Oct 21–24). They dig into why “midlife has a branding problem,” the U-curve of happiness, and how the second half can move us from productivity to fruitfulness. Tyler shares tear-worthy moments from the panels (don’t miss the Sevens), why 60 is still “midlife,” and what happens when elders step into being elders—sages who lend hard-won wisdom across generations.

In this episode:

• Midlife ≠ crisis: redefining the forties, fifties, and sixties as seasons of ascent
• “Rehiring,” not retiring: purpose, reinvention, and new risks later in life
• From skills to wisdom: becoming an elder instead of just getting older
• Integrating the three centers with age—and why that brings real joy
• Generational cycles (spring/summer/fall/winter) and what Gen Z can build next
• Stories of resilience through illness, loss, and the long cocoon

About the Summit:

The Midlife Summit runs Oct 21–24 and streams free for four days (with optional lifetime access at an early-bird price). Panels feature respected voices from the Narrative tradition, the Enneagram Institute, Personality Hacker, and more. Grab the link in the show notes to register and see the full lineup.

Early Access on iTunes: HERE

Early Access on Spotify: HERE

Music is by GIANTS AND PILGRIMS

Our inaugural Episode! In this discussion on Early Access, host Katie Whitlock sits down with her close friend Michael —an Ironman-in-training, soon-to-be husband, and a reluctant but curious student of the Enneagram.

Enneagram Two gets a fresh look. Jeff sits down with coach and creator Jackie Contessa to unpack why “the Helper” label misses the mark and how that shortcut fuels mistyping. They trace the real motives at play—pride, flattery, intrusion, hidden grief, and the drive to “etch a role” in others’ lives—and name how gendered expectations distort typing (why many women lean Two and many men avoid it). Jeff and Jackie contrast Twos with Ones: duty and betterment vs. relational payoff, resentment from suppressed anger vs. resentment from unmet exchanges. They also hit possessiveness, boundaries as relationship-keepers, external energy vs. inner world, and the Two-to-Eight stress move. If you’ve ever wondered, “Am I a Two—or just helpful?” this one gives you a sharper lens.