Support Here: https://artofsufferingpodcast.com In this conversation, Dalton Darnell and Jake Corwin discuss the holistic recovery programs offered at the National Center for Healthy Veterans, emphasizing the importance of healing veterans physically, mentally, spiritually, and emotionally. They explore the role of education, the significance of hard work, and the journey of finding purpose in life. The discussion also touches on the concept of being a 'savage' in faith, the challenges of personal growth, and the impact of coaching and leadership. They address the realities of relapse in recovery and the importance of resilience in overcoming life's challenges. In this conversation, Dalton Darnell and Jake Corwin explore the multifaceted relationship between personal growth, community, and spirituality. They discuss the importance of church as a source of spiritual nourishment, the disconnect between church and community, and the need for authenticity in leadership. The dialogue emphasizes the significance of accountability, the power of suffering and sacrifice, and the role of self-discipline in spiritual growth. They also touch on the impact of physical health on spiritual life and the necessity of filling the void with Christ to overcome trauma and identity struggles.