And Also With You is a podcast about reclaiming an ancient Christian faith for modern Christian life, helmed by two millennial women Episcopal priests and moms (Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail and Rev. Laura Di Panfilo). For our fourth season we are diving deep into SIN, EVIL, and DEATH, and we're starting out with a bang: what is the sin of Christian Nationalism?

The theology of MAGA Christian nationalism has nuances, but the connective tissue is this: the world is not safe, and God must be defended from many, many enemies — and when God is defended on earth, God will reign over His chosen children with love, while exacting vengeance on everyone else. It is explicitly patriarchal even as it can empower women in positions of prestige and leadership, provided they are still “under” a man in some way. MAGA Christian nationalism creates communal identity based not so much on what Christian nationalists have in common, but on what they are against and, therefore, whom they must defeat.

But while MAGA Christian nationalism offered a tempting promise, its popularity is actually the self-consuming dragon ... and this is the nature of sin, evil, and death. So buckle up cutie pies, we're tearing this idol apart brick by brick.

This podcast is entirely possible because of listeners like YOU, so please support our work here via PAYPAL, VENMO, OR APPLE PAY: https://www.paypal.com/ncp/payment/AQ74PDBMBXYVA

Lizzie's piece for The Preamble: https://thepreamble.com/cp/211884325

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More about Father Lizzie:

BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

RevLizzie.com

https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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More about Mother Laura:

https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

St. Brendan's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA - https://www.stbrendans.org

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Theme music:

"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!

Confessing our sins can be super liberating, but it is a practice that has been used to predatory ends. How do we approach "Confession" from a liberating standpoint, and what are ways we think about being forgiven as people who live in the real world? Join us for an enlivening, deep conversation with The Rev. Kelli Joyce on sin, confession, mercy, forgiveness, and what God has to do with it all.

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We'd love your support on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast

There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

Keep up with us on Instagram here: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/

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More about Father Lizzie:

https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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More about Mother Laura:

https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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Theme music:

"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

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New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!

The idea of "sin" has been weaponized, especially against marginalized folks. We've brought our colleague, friend, and brilliant theologian The Rev. Dr. Patrick Cheng to speak with us on sin, and why we're not giving up on the idea of sin even as liberated Christians. Father Patrick is a prolific writer, thinker, and leader in the church; in this episode, we're talking especially about his book, From Sin to amazing Grace: Discovering the Queer Christ. If you like this episode, read his books! And tell your friends!

You can find more from Father Patrick on his website here: https://www.patrickcheng.net

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Like what you hear? We are an entirely crowd-sourced, you-funded project.

SUPPORT US ON PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/AndAlsoWithYouPodcast

There's all kinds of perks including un-aired live episodes, Zoom retreats, and mailbag episodes for our Patreons!

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Our Website: https://andalsowithyoupod.com

Our Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/andalsowithyoupodcast/

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MERCH: https://www.bonfire.com/store/and-also-with-you-the-podcast/

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More about Father Lizzie:

BOOK: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/762683/god-didnt-make-us-to-hate-us-by-rev-lizzie-mcmanus-dail/

https://www.instagram.com/rev.lizzie/

https://www.tiktok.com/@rev.lizzie

Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, TX - JubileeATX.org

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More about Mother Laura:

https://www.instagram.com/laura.peaches/

https://www.tiktok.com/@mother_peaches

St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh, PA

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Theme music:

"On Our Own Again" by Blue Dot Sessions (www.sessions.blue).

New episodes drop Mondays at 7am EST/6am CST!