Feeling lonely around people can be hard to explain, especially when you seem confident, outgoing, or connected. Apollo joins chaplain educator Rick Capezza to explore why being around others doesn’t always mean feeling known, and what it takes to build deeper relationships.In Episode 2 of Amor Immortalem, Rick draws on more than a decade of hospice chaplaincy while Apollo shares his experience of hiding his true self behind an outwardly confident personality. Together, they explore the unexpected value of small talk, why friendship takes practice, and how wanting a perfect community can keep us from building a real one.00:00 – Welcome to Amor Immortalem02:00 – Building a community for open spiritual conversations05:00 – Letting go of the need to know everything08:00 – Loneliness and the first steps toward vulnerability09:00 – Why real community takes time and practice11:00 – Learning to appreciate small talk17:00 – Feeling isolated behind a confident personality23:00 – Solitude, divorce, and discovering what you need25:00 – Apollo’s loss of faith and changing view of God28:00 – Ego, gratitude, and spiritual growth32:00 – Staying present instead of living in the past or future34:00 – Radical acceptance and unmet expectations36:00 – Self-forgiveness and the fear of being loved40:00 – Human first, chaplain second: listening with presence43:00 – Breathing, pausing, and sitting with discomfort48:00 – Spiritual practice and living your life as a prayer52:00 – Experiencing God through presence in nature54:00 – Rick’s work with the Spiritual Care Collaborative58:00 – Spiritual formation through action and reflection1:01:00 – Why saying “I love you” feels vulnerable

Forgiving someone who hurt you can feel impossible even when you want to let go of the anger. In the first episode of Amor Immortalem, Apollo Scott explores that tension through his personal reflections on faith, self-worth, and learning to love without accepting harmful behavior.Apollo introduces the belief at the heart of this podcast: God is love. He shares why getting what he wanted still left him feeling empty, how outward confidence concealed private vulnerability, and what began to change as he reconsidered forgiveness and his relationship with God.Reflecting on eight years of identifying as an atheist and his return to faith, Apollo discusses a dream he believes helped him see people beyond the harm they caused. He also explores setting boundaries, separating human worth from behavior, moving away from anger, and learning to trust God instead of trying to control every outcome.00:00 – Introducing Apollo Scott and Amor Immortalem01:00 – Why having what you want can still feel empty04:00 – Self-judgment, confidence, and hidden vulnerability12:00 – Pursuing a personal relationship with God17:00 – Forgiveness, bitterness, and the hurt he couldn’t release19:00 – Atheism, suffering, and a dream that changed his perspective21:00 – Apollo’s experiences of God communicating through dreams26:00 – Belonging without giving up your individuality30:00 – Separating a person’s worth from their behavior40:00 – Trusting God and letting go of control44:00 – Self-worth beyond performance46:00 – Connecting across beliefs through kindness48:00 – Facing conflict together instead of fighting each other50:00 – Reconnecting with his mother through faith51:00 – The vision for Just Love55:00 – Vulnerability, community, and a closing invitation