What happens when your next customer is not a person, but an AI agent shopping on their behalf? The way we buy things online may be about to change a lot faster than most people realize.

In this episode of AI-Curious, we talk with Chi Zhang, cofounder and CEO of Kite, about agentic commerce and the infrastructure that could make AI agents true economic actors instead of just helpful assistants. We explore what it means to let an agent not only research flights, groceries, APIs, or consumer goods, but actually complete the transaction safely. Along the way, we unpack why Chi describes Kite as the “Stripe for agents,” and why this shift could force businesses to rethink who they are really selling to.

We also dig into the hard part: trust. If an agent is going to spend money on your behalf, how does a merchant know that your agent is legitimate, authorized, and not a scam wearing your face? We get into the identity, verification, authorization, privacy, and infrastructure layers that make agentic payments possible, and why those pieces matter just as much as the agents themselves.

This conversation also looks at why stablecoins and programmable money may be especially well suited to this future, particularly for micropayments, API access, and machine-to-machine commerce where traditional card rails are too expensive or clunky. More broadly, we talk about what happens when AI agents start doing more of the comparison shopping, checkout, and transaction work that humans used to do themselves.

Guest
Chi Zhang — Cofounder and CEO, Kite

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In a year when the frontier AI labs are spending tens of billions on training runs and scaling their teams into the thousands, one of 2026's fastest-growing agentic AI companies has exactly one employee.

His name is Arthur Vandelay. His company is Mojo Agentic AI. And his revenue, with zero outside funding and a Fortune 100 client roster, is on track to clear $30 million this year.

In this episode of AI-Curious, Arthur walks us through how he did it — a master class in vibe coding, the agentic harness architecture he built from scratch, and the human-in-the-loop and governance disciplines that let a one-person shop sell credibly into the Fortune 100. We get into where the agentic AI hype is real and where it isn't, why the model is no longer the bottleneck, and what most enterprises are still getting wrong about putting autonomous agents into production.

If you're a builder, an operator, or an executive trying to figure out where agents actually fit in your business, this is one of the most concrete glimpses we've gotten this year into what a working agentic AI company looks like at scale.

Guest
Arthur Vandelay — Founder and CEO, Mojo Agentic AI.

What if the future of AI is not just better text, better image, and better video models stitched together, but something closer to a unified mind?

In this episode of AI-Curious, we talk with Caroline Ingeborn, COO of Luma AI, about the company’s bet on “unified intelligence” and why that may be a fundamentally different path toward AGI. We explore why Luma believes training across modalities together, instead of building separate models and bolting them together later, could unlock more natural reasoning and much more powerful creative tools. We also get into Luma’s latest release, Uni 1.1, a thinking image model trained on both image and text, and what that means for editing, image composition, and creative control.

We also look at how this is already changing real creative work. From agencies showing up to pitch meetings with finished videos already made, to Japanese animation studios using AI to move faster without sacrificing quality, we discuss what happens when creative teams can build worlds instead of generating image by image. Along the way, we talk about Luma’s creative agents, how they help turn scripts and briefs into characters, storyboards, and scenes, and why the goal is not to replace human taste, but to multiply it.

This conversation also goes deeper than tools. We talk about AI slop, human performance, visual communication, the future of agencies, and why the best creators may be the ones who learn to work with these systems earliest and best. If multimodal intelligence is real, what does it mean to build machines that think more like we do, and what does that change for storytelling, creativity, and work itself?

Guest:
Caroline Ingeborn — COO, Luma AI

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