Today on the Firefighters Podcast, I sit down with Phil Garrigan, Chair of the National Fire Chiefs Council, to discuss the future of the UK fire and rescue service. With 34 years in the job, Phil shares why this is not about titles but about preparing our service for tougher challenges – from climate change and wildfires to aging infrastructure and shifting public expectations – all while we are asked to do more with less.

We explore how consistent national training, embracing new technologies, and building leadership grounded in emotional intelligence will keep our service ready and trusted. Phil challenges us to consider whether we are shaping the future together or letting it shape us, reminding us that protecting the communities we serve means we must plan for tomorrow as seriously as we plan for our next incident. Join us as we unpack what needs to change, what we need to protect, and how we can build a fire service that remains strong and relevant for the challenges ahead.

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