In this episode, I sit down with Talia for a real, heartfelt conversation about something we all struggle with—talking about what we do in a way that feels alive and exciting. We dig into the societal norms and self-awareness hurdles that often hold us back from showing up fully in conversations. Talia introduces the "Three P's" framework (pain, problem, passion) to help bring more depth and aliveness to how we share our stories, and we talk about the importance of taking up space, owning your gifts, and being authentic in every interaction.

We also get into why asking deeper questions and leading with what truly moves you can transform how you connect with others. And yes, we touch on the power of pure enthusiasm—whether it’s about your work, your next big step, or, in Talia’s case, her upcoming wedding and a new podcast collab! This is the kind of honest, open-hearted chat that feels like you’re sitting down with a friend over coffee

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