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#215: Oliva Gibbs Law – Part 1

#215: Oliva Gibbs Law – Part 1

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 Zach Oliva had just graduated from law school when Ohio discover a huge natural gas shale. Well, he went digging where no other lawyers were... Dave Young: Welcome to the Empire Builders Podcast, teaching business owners the not-so-secret techniques that took famous businesses from mom-and-pop to major brands. Stephen Semple is a marketing consultant, story collector and storyteller. I'm Stephen's sidekick and business partner, Dave Young. Before we get into today's episode, a word from our sponsor, which is, well, it's us, but we're highlighting ads we've written and produced for our clients. Here's one of those. [Oliva Gibbs Law Ad] Stephen Semple: Hey, it's Stephen Semple with the Empire Builders Podcast. We're doing something a little different this week. We've given Dave the day off, and I've got a really special guest with me, Zach Oliva. He's the co-founder of the law firm Oliva Gibbs, in Texas. They're an energy law firm. You guys, you've done something special in terms of what you've grown into. How many lawyers are you now, Zach? Zach Oliva: I think probably close to 60 attorneys across six offices in the U.S. It's been a lot of fun. Stephen Semple: You always know you've grown to a size when it's like, "I think it's 60." Zach Oliva: Yeah. Well, we're always looking for rock stars. I know that there's probably some offers that went out this week, not sure what the status of those are and things. We're blessed with a really great team. Stephen Semple: How long have you guys been around for now? When was the firm established? How many years ago now? Zach Oliva: 2013, actually. Stephen Semple: 2013? Zach Oliva: 12 years, yeah. Stephen Semple: Yeah, that's phenomenal. In 12 years, it has grown from yourself and Brad to basically being now 60 odd lawyers, and being in that magic- Zach Oliva: Yeah. Well, we started the business with another partner who has since retired. Stephen Semple: Okay. All right, there was three. Zach Oliva: I think I was 26 years old. I was reflecting on that the other day. I think I was 26, which, I was pretty dumb then, so I didn't know how stupid of an idea. I also didn't have kids, which makes the decision a little bit different. Stephen Semple: Tell me about how all of this started, because the thing that's also interesting is the area you've gone after, oil and gas. Look, it's not the glamorous space. It would be a bit of an easy one to overlook and not get excited about, and you guys have built this amazing business. As we've worked together, I've learned more and more about how it's actually a far more interesting and innovative industry than people give it credit for. How did it all get started? Zach Oliva: Well, I was in law school in Ohio, where I grew up, and Ohio got just destroyed by the Great Recession. I got out of law school around 2011, and there were no jobs. I was reading the paper, and I noticed that in the paper, they kept talking about this thing called the Utica Shale and the Marcellus Shale, which, they were calling it the most prolific natural gas discovery ever in the country. It was under Ohio, so under the land, under the state of Ohio and New York, and parts of Pennsylvania and West Virginia, and no law firms in Ohio at that time had an oil and gas practice. I was going to these firms, saying, "Hey, I think there's going to be something here. I would love to come work for you, even for free, because I really think that this is going to be a big industry in Ohio. By the way, there are no big industries in Ohio anymore. If anything's going to work, it's going to be this one." None of them were interested in a kid fresh out of law school working for free, doing something that they had no idea how it worked, which, I don't blame them at all. I had a professor who was a really bright guy, and he was really knowledgeable about the country. He was previously an advisor,
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