Joanne Murphy and Keith Grint come to the swamp to discuss their views on leadership and the effort required to do it well. Joanne and Keith are deeply informed on this topic of leading. Their academic background includes teaching, research and writing. We discuss the differences between command, management and leadership. All three approaches matter and we explore the value of each role. The state of the world calls for more people with the stamina to lead. In this episode, stamina will be supported with craft.

Links

Joanne’s Links

Joanne’s Book: Management and War: How Organisations Navigate Conflict and Build Peace’

University of Birmingham

Joanne’s Website

Public Service Podcast

The Leadership Challenge of Northern Ireland

Twitter - @changeresearch

10000 SwampLeaders Joanne Murphy Podcast (Episode)

Keith’s Links

Bio

LinkedIn

keith.grint@wbs.ac.uk

New Blog: ILA Blog article: Care-Full Leadership: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/care-full-leadership/

New Articles:

“Closing ranks: Leadership and the mundanization of the extraordinary in military history” Leadership https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241238811

WhatsApp to Sunak’ Leadership (2024) https://doi.org/10.1177/17427150241240598

New Books:

A Cartography of Resistance: Leadership, Management & Command

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/a-cartography-of-resistance-9780198921745?lang=en&cc=gb

Mutiny & Leadership https://global.oup.com/academic/search?q=grint+mutiny&cc=gb&lang=en

Leadership: Limits and Possibilities 2nd ed. (with Owain Smolovic Jones) https://www.bloomsbury.com/uk/leadership-9781350333130/

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I want to thank my great team that helps me sound better than I am.

• Jacki Hydock for her lending her wonderful voice to our introduction and outro

• Great music by Jazz Night

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