Nashville Predators GM Barry Trotz made revealing admissions about his difficult transition from coaching to management during a candid conversation with Pittsburgh Penguins GM Kyle Dubas in Stockholm.

Ann Kimmel and Emma Lingan break down Trotz's relationship with head coach Andrew Brunette, examining whether a coaching change is necessary despite Brunette's solid credentials. The discussion tackles the growing frustration among championship-caliber veterans like Steven Stamkos and Jonathan Marchessault, who were promised contention but face a painful rebuild instead. The hosts challenge narratives about locker room dysfunction, explaining why veteran frustration stems from running out of time for another Stanley Cup run rather than interpersonal drama.

Key topics include evaluating GMs on five-year timelines, the Predators' organizational preference for continuity, and why firing Trotz wouldn't solve the roster problems he created.

Discover why Nashville's path forward requires pain regardless of who's behind the bench, and what Trotz's self-awareness reveals about the franchise's future direction.

0:00 Intro

1:11 Barry Trotz and Kyle Dubas GM conversation

4:01 Trotz's difficult transition from coaching to GM

6:05 Learning curve and human element of management

10:24 Self-awareness and acknowledging the problems

12:26 Trotz's comments on head coach Andrew Brunette

18:15 Need for a different voice in locker

20:16 Trotz coaching rumors and roster construction mismatch

23:25 The painful path forward for Nashville

26:50 Veterans' frustration and patience wearing thin

31:25 Stamkos and Marchessault running out of time

34:30 Understanding Andrew Brunette's demeanor and coaching style

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