As working mothers, we're told that flexible working is the solution. Work from home two days a week. Do compressed hours. Start at 10am instead of 9am. But if these solutions actually worked, why do we still feel like we're constantly drowning? Why are we still apologizing for our lives? Why does the motherhood penalty persist?

Flexible working has been around for more than 70 years, yet employment gaps for mothers aren't closing. We're not failing...the system is. In this episode, I sit down with Lizzie Penny, mother of three and cofounder of the Workstyle Revolution, a charity on a mission to create a world of work without bias. Lizzie's story is a masterclass in why we need to stop tweaking the edges of an outdated system and start demanding something entirely different.

Lizzie introduces the concept of "work style"—NOT flexible working, but a fundamental reimagining of how we measure value, productivity, and contribution in the workplace. She explains why mothers are actually the most productive workers (yes, there's data!), why you shouldn't have to apologise for going to your child's school play, and how the complexity of our lives is our superpower, not our weakness.

This conversation will change how you think about your worth at work and give you the language and permission to start advocating for what you actually need to thrive, not just survive, as a working mother.