In this episode of Life’s Tough, Explorers are Tougher, dive deep with Captain Alfred McLaren, U.S. Navy (Ret.), a Cold War submarine commander, Arctic explorer, and author of Emergency Deep: Cold War Missions of a Submarine Commander.

Captain McLaren reflects on his decades of leadership beneath the sea — from navigating Soviet waters during the height of the Cold War to charting the uncharted Siberian shelf beneath the Arctic ice. He shares extraordinary stories of stealth missions, surviving a seven-hour Soviet depth charge attack, and commanding submarines in some of the world’s most hostile environments.

The conversation explores leadership under pressure, the psychology of command, and the razor-thin line between exploration and survival. McLaren also reveals the realities of life aboard a submarine — the claustrophobia, discipline, and absolute trust that bond a crew together thousands of feet below the surface.

This is Life's Tough, Explorers Are Tougher, with your host, Richard Weiss. Scratch the surface of an explorer and you'll find an adventure and a great story. This show is about their tales.

This podcast is a proud supporter of the Explorers Club and the EC50 Initiative. 50 people changing the world that the world needs to know about. For more information, go to explorers.org.