Building Community with MDMA: Charles Wininger's 20-Year Experiment

Psychotherapist Charles Wininger shares 20 years of experience leading group MDMA sessions in New York, detailed protocols for creating safe communal experiences, and his vision for a nationwide simultaneous experience to rebuild community connections.

Guest: Charles Wininger - Psychotherapist for 35 years, psychonaut for 50 years, author of "Listening to Ecstasy: The Transformative Power of MDMA"

Key Topics:

Why community is literally life or death

Complete protocols for group MDMA experiences

The "serious fun" middle way between therapy and raves

Ground rules: consent, boundaries, and safety

Why mixing substances changes everything

Couples using MDMA 2-3x weekly at micro-doses

Planning a nationwide simultaneous experience

The Fireside Project's 24/7 psychedelic support

Timestamps:

00:00 Introduction - Tribal animals need community

01:01 Meet Charles Wininger

01:59 "Community is the medicine"

03:55 MDMA as the "chemical of connection"

06:22 Healing a 7-year rift between friends

10:12 Structuring safe group experiences

12:14 "Serious fun" - the middle way

13:55 Selecting participants carefully

15:02 Ground rules and safety protocols

18:45 Respecting boundaries and consent

20:50 What people fear most: safety

24:04 Creating "chill space" for solitude

25:10 No mixing substances policy

27:16 Saturday sessions with Sunday integration

29:04 Managing the "Tuesday blues"

31:33 Lowering doses with age

33:31 Coming out of the "chemical closet"

38:17 Why not mix ketamine or cannabis

40:29 Psilocybin combinations in therapy

43:03 Community ripple effects

48:09 Couples using MDMA 2-3x weekly

52:21 One day weekly for relationship

57:52 Fireside Project's free support line

01:00:40 Helicopter rides during earthquakes

01:03:38 Connect with Charles

Links:

Website: higherpurpose.community

Book: listeningtoecstasy.com

Contact: charles@higherpurpose.community