Retirement isn’t just about making your money last — it’s about making your life count.

In this special Courageous Retirement episode, host Vona Johnson teams up with guest host Michael Fritzius to co-lead a dynamic panel featuring three experts in purpose, financial planning, and travel. Together, Dan Simon, Mike Perez, and Amanda Hietter discuss how retirement can become your most meaningful, adventurous, and faith-filled season yet.

Throughout the conversation you will discover how to:
~Overcome fear and uncertainty about what’s next
~ Balance financial security with legacy and generosity
~ Embrace travel as a pathway to growth and connection
~ Find (or rediscover) your God-given calling in this new chapter

If you’re ready to dream big, live intentionally, and finish well, this conversation will inspire you to answer God’s call to MORE—and step confidently into your Best Season with confidence and purpose.

Episode Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to Retirement Fears and Purpose
00:24 Panel Discussion: Exploring Retirement Beyond Finances
01:30 Meet the Panelists: Amanda, Mike, and Dan
03:51 Addressing Fear and Uncertainty in Retirement
06:45 Building Community and Thriving in Retirement
14:00 Dreaming Big and Planning for Retirement
18:37 Creating a Legacy Through Travel and Experiences
26:11 Integrating Spiritual Calling in Retirement
31:57 Seeking Clarity in Financial Decisions
32:37 The Importance of Intentionality and Structure
34:39 Guarding Against Aimlessness in Retirement
38:39 Transformative Power of Travel in Retirement
40:05 Creative Travel Ideas for a Purposeful Retirement
41:26 Financial Planning for Stress-Free Travel
42:57 Discovering Your God-Given Calling
46:36 Influencing and Serving Without a Title
47:58 Five Pillars of a Faith-Driven Retirement
50:46 Defining a Financial Finish Line
52:44 Shifting Retirement Outlook with Biblical Principles
55:32 Legacy and Daily Decisions
56:37 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

Quotes:
" And it's very important for me that everything is buttoned up at the end. And I've lived a life that I will be remembered for the things that I wanna be remembered for." Mike Perez

" The underlying question is this: when is enough enough?" Mike Perez

" You continue to influence and serve by continuing to serve the people and be of value to the people that God puts in front of you." Dan Simon

" A lot of people forget about the fact where you can have that fun, (with) what we call personal travel, but then incorporate in some kind of ministry or missions while you're there to give back to the community. And that is a way really to honor God through your retirement." Amanda Heitter

" It's never too early to start finishing well." Vona Johnson

Scripture Referenced:
For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago. Ephesians 2:10

Contact Information:
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