Activism can often feel like a race against time; the gravity of injustice too urgent to look away from. But what does this constant sense of urgency mean for the well-being of those at the frontlines of responding to these crises? In this week’s episode of On the Contrary by IDR, we speak to two veteran activists from South Africa.

Kumi Naidoo is a human rights and environmental justice activist who has led major global organisations including Amnesty International and Greenpeace. He is joined by Louisa Zondo, the former head of the South African Human Rights Commission and founder of the Ricky Rick Foundation for Promotion of Artivism. Listen as Kumi and Louisa discuss the importance of care and well-being when confronting the most pressing issues of our time.

Host: Devanshi Vaid

Produced and edited by: Shreya Adhikari, Devanshi Vaid, and Halima Ansari

IDR is an online journal that publishes cutting-edge ideas, lessons, and insights written by and for the people working on some of India’s toughest problems. For more information about IDR, visit www.idronline.com. Also, follow IDR on Linkedin, Instagram,

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