Who was Dylan’s first choice to produce Infidels? The spirit of which Beat poet lurks behind the lyrics to Jokerman? Do I smell goats roasting over fire and brimstone, or is it my imagination? Have you heard the one about the old man in the church who faced down the Devil? What’s the story behind Dylan and the Plugz on Late Night with Letterman?

Why does ‘Why Dylan Matters’ by Richard F. Thomas matter? If every window’s made of glass, why does Dylan bother mentioning it? What’s the point of the violence in the Beyond Here Lies Nothin’ video? Is the song romantic or anti-romantic? Where does the Together Through Life cover art come from? Does Dylan have an exile obsession?

Song 1: Jokerman https://open.spotify.com/track/6cuHkcRUqtQhtJ4sWCkd1q?si=b9401c7c3ba2481b

Song 2: Beyond Here Lies Nothin' https://open.spotify.com/track/5pAWVctic0ClLM714mmqAI?si=7103e09f5f9c40d1

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Editor: Daniel Crespin

Theme Music: The Haze by Daniel Crespin

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