This is Part 2 of my episode with Dr Leo Pruimboom, a pioneer in cPNI. I was incredibly lucky to speak with him or our 2nd episode at the Integrative and Personalised Medicine Congress 2025 who kindly hosted us. Our conversation offered me a new understanding into how much health we can have access to if we know how to truly sense what our bodies are telling us, and how to manage the consequences of modern inventions. His personal story of transformation, and healing anecdotes from his clients will allow you to imagine a life full of possibility and ‘miracles’ that we are not typically taught to believe in.

Clinical Psychoneuroimmunology (CPNI) challenges the reductionist, symptom-focused model of modern medicine. Instead, CPNI is a science of wholeness: it studies how the neurological, endocrine, immune, and metabolic systems are interconnected and shaped by our emotions, history, and environment. CPNI puts the individual at the center of healthcare, seeking root causes, promoting healthy habits, and empowering patients to actively participate in their own wellbeing.

In this episode we cover:

How CPNI (clinical psychoneuroimmunology) reveals that everything is connected—mind, body, brain, immune system, and environment.

How we’ve been taught to see systems as separate and why that reductionism isn’t serving us.

The impact of emotions on physical health, inflammation, and immunity.

Do toxic emotions exist?

How to sense what out bodies need and why modern life makes this hard

Comfortable habits vs challenges that make us healthy.

Why variety, spontaneity, and movement breaks protect our health.

What our cravings mean, hunger and micronutrient sensing.

Why intermittent fasting, ketosis, and diets must be understood in context, not as dogma.

How our environment shapes our microbiome.

The role of energy, frequency, and electrical signaling in health.

The difference between appropriate and inappropriate emotions.

Why monotony is dangerous for our health and variety is medicine.

His seemingly miraculous healing stories, and how processing a childhood trauma cured his lifelong condition in hours.

The role of sensing, intuition, and embodied intelligence.

Why the blueprint of life isn’t in our genes—it’s in our behavior, context, and choices.

How our inventions (from chairs to supermarkets) carry unintended health consequences—and how to deal with them.

How we are more in charge of our health than we think.

Why the doctor’s role is shifting.

(The information provided in this podcast is intended for informational purposes only and does not constitute medical advice. The views expressed by guests are their own. We strongly advise that you contact a registered and experienced healthcare professional if you have any health concerns. No part of this episode should be taken as a claim to prevent, treat, or cure cancer.)

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