In this conversation, John Fullerton and Sandja Brügmannexplore the urgent need for a reimagined economic and financial system that serves life. They discuss the concept of the polycrisis, which encompasses interconnected crises such as climate change and inequality, and emphasize the importance of shifting worldviews from separation to unity. The dialogue highlights the necessity of effective communication, the role of consciousness in systemic change, and the potential for regenerative economics to align purpose with investment. They also address the challenges of navigating chaos and the importance of finding joy in the transformative work ahead.

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Takeaways

The economy is a living system, not a machine

The polycrisis encompasses interconnected crises like climate change and inequality

A worldview shift is necessary to address root causes of crises

Dialogue is essential for generative conversations and understanding

We must work on consciousness to change the systems we inhabit

Islands of coherence can shift entire system

Regenerative economics is about aligning purpose with investment

First principles of living systems guide sustainable practices

Potential exists in all systems, but must be nurtured

Collective rising consciousness can lead to systemic change

Chapters

00:00 A Bold Reimagination of Economics

03:10 Understanding the Polycrisis

05:04 The Myth of Separation

07:24 Worldview Shifts and Integral Age Thinking

09:59 The Challenge of Communication

12:19 Navigating Emotional Immaturity

14:29 Paradigm Shifts in Economics

17:05 Living Systems and Economic Health

19:29 Experiential Learning and Regenerative Economics

21:44 Potential and Darkness in Living Systems

30:48 The Dark Side of Algorithms

32:58 First Principles and Business Models

36:42 The State of the Global Economy

40:51 Paradigm Shifts and Collective Consciousness

43:20 Strategies for Change

47:16 Finding Joy in the Work

Links:

www.CapitalInstitute.org

Places to Intervene in a System https://donellameadows.org/archives/leverage-points-places-to-intervene-in-a-system/

Savory Institute https://savory.global/

Mondragon Corporation https://www.mondragon-corporation.com/en/

The Passion Institute www.ThePassionInstitute.com

About John B. Fullerton is an American economist, investor, with a previous international career at JP Morgan, and author of the 2015 booklet, Regenerative Capitalism: How Universal Patterns and Principles Will Shape the New Economy.

Fullerton began his financial career with JPMorgan managing numerous capital markets and derivaties businesses around the globe, and was JPMorgan’s Oversight Committee Representative that managed the rescue of Long Term Capital Management in 1998. Following his retirement from JP Morgan, in 2010, he created the Capital Institute, a think-tank on regenerative economic theory, an attempt to imagine economics and finance in service to life.

About Host Sandja Brügmann, Founder & CEO of The Passion Institute—a strategic transformation institute—a global visionary in leadership and strategic transformation, engages thought leaders and practitioners to shape our collective future. Named one of the "World's Leadership Gurus" byLederne and known as 'The Board Whisperer' among leaders, she is renowned for her expertise in systems awareness and strategic sustainable transformation. She and team empower forward-thinking organizations and leaders to cultivate theskills and strategies crucial for the transition.