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19: Aging and Your Career with Dani Donders

19: Aging and Your Career with Dani Donders

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Much of society thinks of retirement as the end of something important. And maybe that’s true. But what if it’s just the beginning of something… better? In this episode, Lara and Rowan chat with their longtime friend Dani Donders, who retired at age 55 (yes, we’re also envious) after a long career in the Canadian federal government and is now pursuing new creative ventures. Not only is she writing books and reading tarot cards, but she also teaches other women how to explore and embrace their creative side later in life through workshops.No matter where you are in life, this chat will give you food for thought. Age is just a number, and it shouldn’t stop us from living.LinksDani’s website - https://curiouscrone.ca/Curious Crone on YoutubeCurious Crone on InstagramA blog post by Dani inspired by one of our podcast episodesHow to find Dani’s book on rock wrappingWant more of Lara and Rowan?Rowan is available for speaking engagements, and Lara also shares a lot of her art on Instagram.Transcript(transcripts are not carefully edited and probably have some errors)[00:00:00] Dani: I call it the permission to try. People need permission to try new things, which is kind of crazy. Like how do we get to the point where you need permission? Is it okay if I mix the red paint and the blue paint?Well, yeah. It's your art. Welcome back to unboxing It. I'm Lara.[00:00:39] Rowan: And I'm Rowan.[00:00:41] Lara: And we are thrilled because we have a guest with us today and it's somebody that Rowan and I have both known for a long time and like a coming on decades, from the online space and who we think is the perfect person to bring a topic backup. So we've talked about aging once.We're gonna talk about it again. We're gonna talk a little bit about what it means in terms of career. What you do next, and I think it's gonna be a little bit of trying to disrupt the whole getting older means life is ending conversation. So welcome to the show, Dani Donders.[00:01:22] Dani: Oh my goodness. It is not an understatement for me to say this is a huge honor to be here with you guys.So thank you.[00:01:29] Lara: We are so thrilled to have you. I'm going to read an introduction of who Dani is for all of you, and then we're gonna jump into this conversation. So Dani Donders believes there is magic in storytelling and curiosity and creative expression, and in connecting with other humans now retired from a long career in government, Dani has dedicated her crone years to rekindling the spark of creative play in herself and in others.She hosts kitchen table workshops where friends can come together in an afternoon or evening of creative exploration. She does tarot card readings for events and parties. She continues to explore photography and creative print processes. She wrote a book on the creative art of rock wrapping.Dani also loves to share stories of her ongoing creative adventures and words, photos and videos across her small but mighty online empire, at curiouscrone.ca.Welcome, Dani.[00:02:25] Dani: You went with the long version. Thank you, Lara. It is genuinely a pleasure to be here.[00:02:30] Lara: Dani does so many things. But like in a way that I do them, so I'm excited.Right. I love meeting other people who naturally and instinctively do lots of things just because it's easy and it's fun and I find some people look at me like, what are you doing? But I know Dani doesn't.[00:02:47] Dani: All the things, that's what we're doing because everything is so interesting. And how can you just do one interesting thing when all the interesting things are out there?So yeah.[00:02:57] Lara: I hear you.[00:02:58] Rowan: This really flies in the face of the idea that I think a lot of media still perpetuates, and a lot of people still believe, oddly enough, in this economy that. Retirement means kind of just slowly fading out of life, right? Like you're, supposed to, I think in this idea that we have of, I'm gonna use the American dream, but I think it translates to a lot of different cultures that, you know, you go to school, you choose what you wanna do in school, which leads you to a job.You work a job, and then you retire from that job at a certain age, and then you. I don't know, maybe you go on a cruise or,you go golfing or , , I don't know, you basket weave or something. But that's pretty much it. And then perhaps, you live with your children or you go into, a retirement home of some kind, and then you fade away.So like that is not how you plan the, I don't even know what this era of your, I mean, did you call it the crone years? 'cause I kind of love that.[00:04:04] Dani: Yeah. And you know, the whole reason, like I created the Curious Crone Empire, because I wanted to pull together all the different things that I was passionate about.And I called it Curious Crone in particular because like, it's not. Necessarily fun aging and seeing in the media and, in the public sphere what aging, like you said, all the stereotypes ...
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