"Faith is a powerful thing. Faith, I do believe, can make miracles happen."

From boat troubles and beach trips to a heartfelt conversation about faith, Kevin and Jamie cover it all in this episode. They swap stories about Ocean City, New Jersey, bringing home new hermit crabs, and what it means to invest in family, community, and belief. Along the way, they dig into childhood routines, the role of ritual, and why the search for meaning feels as relevant at 70 as it did in grade school.

What you’ll learn in this episode: → The surprising life lessons hermit crabs can teach about growth and change → How Catholic school, ritual, and faith shaped Kevin’s early years → Why belief, community, and small acts of kindness continue to matter

This conversation moves from lighthearted family stories to a deeper reflection on faith, doubt, and what it means to live as a good person—leaving space for curiosity, honesty, and connection.

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Episode Chapters 00:00 welcome + weekend boat troubles 04:30 Ocean City beach trip + hermit crab story 12:30 family pets, cats, and caring well 17:00 wedding plans + family milestones 18:30 growing up Catholic + ritual and routine 26:45 faith, confession, and childhood lessons 34:30 reflections on doubt, divorce, and belief 43:00 conversations about religion + questioning 53:00 science, creation, and higher power 58:15 faith, kindness, and living as a good person 1:03:20 investing in humanity + small acts of good 1:06:40 merch announcement + close

Topics we explore in this episode include: hermit crabs and family pets, boat problems and summer stories, Catholic school and ritual, childhood faith and doubt, religion and community, parenting conversations about belief, resilience through family change, everyday kindness, finding meaning at different ages