Former National Security Advisor and U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice has held some of the highest national security and domestic policy roles in the U.S. government — but her defining strength may be her ability to lead with both head and heart. In this special live episode recorded at the Aspen Ideas Festival, Ambassador Rice sits down with Emily for a deeply personal and urgent conversation. She opens up about transitioning from foreign to domestic policy, her proudest policy wins in health care and drug pricing, and her disappointment in seeing progress rolled back. Ambassador Rice shares how she navigated professional pressure while caring for her aging parents and raising children — and why she never hid the personal decisions that shaped her career. She also emphasizes the importance of rebuilding trust in government and sounds the alarm on the future of American democracy.

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