A Revival Experiment: The Early Days of BSSM
(w/ Bill Johnson & Kris Vallotton | Hosted by Gabe Valenzuela)

The story of a school born in the middle of a movement.

In this episode, we hear behind-the-scenes stories from the early days of the Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry (BSSM). Bill Johnson and Kris Vallotton talk candidly about the original vision, their experiments in teaching the prophetic and deliverance, and what they learned from the messes and miracles along the way.

If you've ever wondered how BSSM became what it is today—or what it means to build a culture of risk and transformation—this episode will give you insight, laughter, and plenty of leadership gold.

[02:16] – How did BSSM start?
[05:55] – What was the initial goal?
[08:51] – Teaching deliverance in a revival culture
[11:05] – Lessons from teaching the prophetic
[13:45] – How the school has evolved over time
[16:15] – Why experimenting was essential to growth
[20:57] – Embracing and cleaning up "messes"
[26:52] – Responding to misunderstandings with maturity

• Revival isn’t polished… It’s raw, real, and powerful.
• The early days of BSSM were marked by courageous experimentation and radical obedience.
• Teaching deliverance and the prophetic required trust, discernment, and flexibility.
• Culture is shaped over time, especially when you’re building something no one’s done before.
• Every move of God involves some mess, and healthy leadership learns how to grow through it.

Bill Johnson is the co-founder of BSSM & Senior Leader of Bethel Church.
Kris Vallotton is the co-founder of BSSM and a Senior Leader at Bethel Church.
Gabe Valenzuela is the Senior Overseer of the BSSM Second Year program.

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For more information on BSSM (Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry) and how to apply, visit https://bssm.net/ — and as a listener, you can sign up for a special $200 tuition discount at https://bethel.ws/bssm_podcast_discount. We’d love to connect with you and hope to see you at BSSM soon!

“Revival or Nothing” — The Second “S” in BSSM
(w/ Hayley Braun, Richard Gordon & Dave Ward | Hosted by Gabe Valenzuela)

What does it really mean to live a supernatural life?

In this powerful episode, Hayley Braun, Richard Gordon, Dave Ward, and Gabe Valenzuela unpack the second "S" in BSSM: supernatural. With raw honesty and bold stories, they share how revival culture isn’t just a buzzword—it’s a lifestyle. From personal encounters with God to faith-filled decisions, this conversation will ignite your hunger for more of God and ground you in the values that shape revivalists.

Whether you're leading in ministry, growing in faith, or just longing for more of the Holy Spirit in your life, this episode is packed with wisdom and fire.

[02:20] – What we mean by "supernatural" in BSSM
[10:25] – Choosing to engage with what God is doing
[15:26] – Don’t shrink God... let hunger and humility expand you
[18:18] – Pointing everything back to Jesus
[22:30] – Taking risks and stepping out in faith
[29:00] – What does it mean to be a “revivalist”?
[33:40] – Purity and power working together
[40:00] – Transformed people transform the world
[51:17] – Hayley gives word for a 19-year-old girl

• Supernatural life is normal in the kingdom of God
• Revival requires risk, hunger, and surrender
• God often works outside of our understanding—but never outside His nature
• You don’t need to be perfect to be chosen—just available
• Revivalists don’t fit in; they stand out for love, truth, and power

Hayley Braun is the Senior Overseer of BSSM Third Year.
Richard Gordon is the Chief Technology Officer of Bethel Church.
Dave Ward is the BSSM Second Year Associate Overseer.
Gabe Valenzuela is the Senior Overseer of BSSM Second Year.

If you were inspired by today’s episode, please take a moment to subscribe and leave us a review. Don’t forget to share this podcast with a friend who is ready to step into their calling as a leader in ministry.

For more information on BSSM (Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry) and how to apply, visit https://bssm.net/ — and as a listener, you can sign up for a special $200 tuition discount at https://bethel.ws/bssm_podcast_discount. We’d love to connect with you and hope to see you at BSSM soon!

What happens when ordinary people say yes to an extraordinary God?

Welcome to Risk & Revival, the brand-new podcast from Bethel School of Supernatural Ministry (BSSM).

For the first time, we’re pulling back the curtain on the risks, revelations, and radical encounters that launched a global move of God.

Join Bill Johnson, Kris Vallotton, and other key leaders, along with voices like Heidi Baker, as they share the moments that shaped them—and shaped history.

If you’re hungry for revival, ready to lead, and willing to risk it all for Jesus, this podcast is for you.

"Risk & Revival" — Coming soon, wherever you listen.