after a turntable week where dan plays rugby and brad goes to a gig, we're joined on the show by elizabeth gabay mw and her son ben bernheim who together run pink.wine, a platform for events, tastings and masterclasses in their specialist subject of rosé wines, in all shapes and sizes.

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[00:00] – intro, wildfire concerns and introducing elizabeth gabay mw and ben bernheim

[07:20] – the gabay-bernheim double act: family, masterclasses and “brutal, honest” wine tasting

[08:35] – liz’s journey into wine, from a first wine book to provence

[11:05] – how liz went from disliking rosé to writing the first rosé book

[14:20] – how provence changed the way the world thinks about rosé

[15:35] – old provence: rustic wines, old notebooks and what the region used to be

[18:35] – underrated rosé regions: portugal, spain and the diversity of rosé

[23:00] – the danger of reducing rosé to one style

[24:00] – quirky old rosés and the wines that have disappeared

[24:20] – life outside wine: hiking, santiago and walking through vineyards

[27:00] – the future of rosé and where the category goes next

[30:00] – favourite rosés, old wines and the wines liz and ben would drink on a desert island

[32:30] – old riesling, mw dinners and interview wrap-up

[33:25] – life outside the interview, luke combs and what brad and dan have been up to

links and notes

wine industry digest – the week in wine every friday

https://wineindustrydigest.com/