In today’s episode, Brooke and Ben dive into different ways of thinking — open and closed, fixed and fluid and whatever exists in between. They discuss their different approaches to rule-following, how they deal with opinion chameleons and why finding common ground is one of the most effective ways to have a constructive conversation.

Ben also explains why he loves playing the devil’s advocate (and why Brooke finds it infuriating!) and finishes with a hard-hitting question: rigid or flexible lollies — which is better?

They discuss:

• hypersensitivity
• Brooke’s EMDR experience
• dealing with narrow-minded people
• chameleon opinions and why they’re so confusing
• rule-followers vs rebels
• improving cognitive flexibility
• how to engage different opinions without losing your mind
• why hope hurts sometimes
• the great lolly debate: rigid vs flexible

Thanks for listening!

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