In this episode — Zee Cohen-Sanchez, founder of Sole Strategies and executive director of National Ground Game, joins to talk about the difference between an activist and a political operative. They discuss her campus tour built as an answer to Turning Point USA, what “hustle” would mean for a health channel, finding and equipping young talent, lobbying, the working-class and evangelical vote, and Obama’s first two years.

Guest: Zee Cohen-Sanchez — founder of Sole Strategies; executive director of National Ground Game PAC. nationalgroundgame.com

Chapters

00:00 — Cold open: activist vs. political operative

00:49 — Welcome: tribal animals, isolation, and inflation

03:37 — A political family, and walking through Occupy Wall Street

05:51 — Protesting vs. acquiring political power

06:58 — Leaving graduate school for the Bernie Sanders campaign

09:13 — Running half of AOC’s paid field program

10:34 — Change minds or get out the vote? The win number

12:43 — Does door-to-door canvassing still work?

13:44 — Is the Democratic Party running an effective Senate campaign?

15:04 — Taking on Charlie Kirk: fifty creators at Texas A&M

20:48 — What Charlie Kirk had: the hustle

22:01 — Richard asks: what would hustle look like for a health channel?

24:07 — The Senate odds, and finding young talent

27:23 — A camera, some lights, and a 19-year-old from rural Texas

28:38 — Richard offers to help

29:48 — Both parties corrupt: lobbying is bribery

31:20 — Accountability

32:39 — Why the Democrats lost the working class

34:11 — Progressive policy vs. slogans: the Nevada door hanger

35:53 — Obama’s first two years: playing fair with people who don’t

39:48 — How do women, Black, and Hispanic voters choose Trump?

41:08 — From a party boat and the Dean scream to 34 felonies

42:25 — How the Democrats lost the evangelicals

44:41 — The ground game in Nevada

45:42 — Last word: vote in the midterms

47:36 — An introduction: Jamie Joyce