Thomas Lee sits down with Jordan Arce and Anthony Lucarini — two pastors who've spent their entire twenties inside local ministry — to talk through what actually changes as you grow up in ministry. They dig into the shift from being covered by a pastor to becoming the covering yourself, why your twenties are a season of discovery rather than mastery, how comparison quietly shapes (and derails) young leaders, and the money conversations most young pastors are afraid to have. Expect authentic, reflective conversation on formation, calling, and the things nobody tells you before you start.

Conversations for young pastors building something that lasts. No polish, no performance — just authentic talk about ministry, leadership, and the things nobody prepared you for.

If you're in a season where you're trying to figure out what your ministry actually needs, visit youngpastornetwork.com to learn how Young Pastor Network can help.

Connect with the team:

Thomas Lee — Founder, Young Pastor Network
Instagram: @itisthomaslee | @youngpastornetwork

Jordan Arce — Lead Pastor, Wellspring Church (Jersey Shore, NJ)
Instagram: @jordanarce_
Website: https://wellspring.one/

Anthony Lucarini — Next Gen Pastor, Lowcountry Community Church (Bluffton, SC)
Instagram: @anthonylucarini
Website: https://www.lowcountrycc.org/

Thomas Lee sits back down with Nate Richie and Jordan McClarnon to keep the conversation going on young adult ministry — this time getting into the question everyone assumes has an answer but doesn't: what actually counts as a "young adult"? They dig into why there's no agreed-upon age range, how your church's own capacity and calling should shape who you're reaching (not what the ministry down the street is doing), and why excellence has nothing to do with size. Expect honest conversation on comparison, clarity, and building a ministry your church actually has the capacity to sustain.

Conversations for young pastors building something that lasts. No polish, no performance — just authentic talk about ministry, leadership, and the things nobody prepared you for.

If you're in a season where you're trying to figure out what your ministry actually needs, visit youngpastornetwork.com to learn how Young Pastor Network can help.

Connect with the team:

Thomas Lee — Founder, Young Pastor Network
Instagram: @itisthomaslee | @youngpastornetwork

Nate Richie — Next Gen Pastor, Grace Family Church
Instagram: @nathan_richie

Jordan McClarnon — Young Adult Pastor, Crossroads Church
Instagram: @jordanmcclarnon

Every young adult pastor eventually asks the same question: do we need to innovate — new formats, new approaches, new energy — or integrate young adults into the life of the church? Or is it actually both?

In this episode, Thomas Lee sits down with Nate Richie (Next Gen Pastor, Grace Family Church, Tampa, FL) and Jordan McClarnon (Young Adult Pastor, Crossroads Church, Cincinnati, OH) — both coaches with Young Pastor Network — to dig into this tension from two different ministry contexts. They talk through what innovation and integration actually look like in practice, and how learning to hold both can work in your favor rather than forcing you to choose.

If you're in a season where you're trying to figure out what your ministry actually needs, visit youngpastornetwork.com to learn how Young Pastor Network can help.

Connect with the team:

Thomas Lee — Founder, Young Pastor Network
Instagram: @itisthomaslee | @youngpastornetwork

Nate Richie — Next Gen Pastor, Grace Family Church
Instagram: @nathan_richie | @gfctheexchange

Jordan McClarnon — Young Adult Pastor, Crossroads Church
Instagram: @jordanmcclarnon | @crsrdsya