Host Andrew Walker welcomes back Bill Chen for a wide-ranging discussion centered on the world of REITs. Though the conversation was intended to focus on one stock, the duo instead explores why REITs have underperformed in recent years, capital cycle dynamics, governance issues, and where Bill sees current opportunities. They dive deep into the theoretical and practical aspects of REIT investing, dissect recent REIT liquidations, and discuss portfolio construction and leverage in event-driven opportunities.

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[00:00:00] Intro and sponsor message

[00:02:20] Launching into REIT investing theory

[00:04:38] Cap rates vs. real estate value

[00:08:03] Rent growth, leverage, and returns

[00:11:06] Why REITs have lagged recently

[00:15:51] Capital cycle theory in real estate

[00:17:55] Governance issues with public REITs

[00:22:23] Share buybacks vs. reinvestment

[00:25:18] Griffin case study and alternatives

[00:30:35] Takeouts and market inefficiencies

[00:33:37] Where Bill sees dislocation now

[00:36:11] Using leverage in liquidations

[00:40:14] REIT liquidation downside surprises

[00:42:00] Asset quality and bid dynamics

[00:45:25] Legal risks in revised estimates

[00:47:11] Unique REIT liquidation wave

[00:49:31] Navigating current REIT opportunities

[00:50:01] Wrap-up and next time tease

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Andrew Walker returns solo for his January 2026 ramblings and discusses the current market euphoria, responses to his “weird markets” thesis, the allure and danger of stepping outside one’s investing edge, how power laws are often misunderstood, and an evolution in his views on societal vices. From geopolitical risk to sports betting regulation, Andrew digs into ideas that may shape investor mindsets in the months ahead.

[00:00:00] January 2026 intro and disclaimers

[00:01:15] Face-ripping rally and market euphoria

[00:04:54] Greenland, tariffs, and taco trade risk

[00:08:50] Weird markets thesis listener pushback

[00:13:02] Misuse of AI in generating alpha

[00:16:29] Slap-worthy portfolio diversification mistakes

[00:20:28] Misreading power laws in indexes

[00:22:52] Shifting stance on cannabis and gambling

[00:25:42] Tail risk in vices and regulation

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Jeremy Raper returns for a deep-dive postmortem on his high-conviction investment in aviation leasing company AVAP. From sourcing the deal via Twitter, to acquiring a ~20% block at well below book value, to negotiating with key stakeholders and navigating operational hurdles, Jeremy recounts the challenges and victories of shareholder activism in a niche sector. This case study sheds light on the realities of unlocking value in the public markets and the grind behind executing a thesis, even when the setup looks ideal on paper.

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[00:00:00] Andrew introduces Jeremy and episode topic

[00:02:11] Investment is a postmortem of AVAP

[00:04:01] Jeremy's background in aviation leasing

[00:09:41] Block purchase strategy and rationale

[00:12:01] Purchase price details and thesis

[00:13:45] Value from being largest shareholder

[00:15:01] Behind-the-scenes work and learning

[00:17:27] Complexity of executing activist strategies

[00:23:46] Monetizing intangibles and aircraft rights

[00:25:01] Shareholder base and interest after stake

[00:28:24] Exiting AVAP and evaluating outcome

[00:30:02] Final thoughts on learning from postmortems

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YAVP hall of famer Jeremy Raper returns to cover a wide range of topics—from Jeremy’s decision to shut down his investment blog to his perspective on underappreciated international markets like Japan and the UK. The episode culminates with an in-depth discussion on Jeremy’s high-stakes activist campaign at HUM Group, a non-bank Australian lender. Jeremy explains why he's pushing for a board overhaul and outlines governance red flags he believes shareholders shouldn't ignore.__________________________________________________________[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction[00:02:24] Jeremy reflects on his writing journey[00:05:21] Why Jeremy stopped his pay blog[00:08:58] Loss of inbound connections[00:12:29] State of Japanese event market[00:17:55] Deep value still thrives in Japan[00:19:09] Concerns with UK governance culture[00:25:49] Overview of HUM Group situation[00:30:29] Rejecting undervalued chairman offer[00:36:53] AGM governance failure issues[00:42:43] Call to vote and next stepsLinks:Yet Another Value Blog - https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com See our legal disclaimer here: https://www.yetanothervalueblog.com/p/legal-and-disclaimerProduction and editing by The Podcast Consultant - https://thepodcastconsultant.com/

Adam Buckstein from ASB partners explores Stride Inc. (formerly K12), the largest provider of virtual public schools in the U.S. Adam dives deep into the company's business model, regulatory framework, and competitive position, as well as the company's unique funding structure, post-COVID enrollment growth, market misconceptions, and the complex compliance challenges it faces. The conversation also dives into Stride’s outcomes, criticisms, AI’s future role in education, and the stock’s dramatic drop following an LMS implementation misstep. _____________________________________________________________

[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction

[00:03:30] Stride’s virtual school structure

[00:05:34] Funding model vs. for-profit colleges

[00:07:16] Why parents choose virtual schools

[00:09:19] Learning coach growth post-COVID

[00:10:16] Payment structure for Stride

[00:12:22] Outcome debates and challenges

[00:17:38] Competitive landscape with Pearson

[00:21:07] Stickiness of Stride contracts

[00:23:22] Curriculum costs and customization

[00:25:10] Economic sensitivity discussion

[00:28:43] Student acquisition and marketing

[00:32:44] October enrollment drop explained

[00:35:42] LMS transition and enrollment loss

[00:38:22] New Mexico lawsuit context

[00:43:26] Outcome data interpretation issues

[00:45:27] AI impact on Stride’s model

[00:47:17] Financials and cash flow strength

[00:51:10] Market overreaction to issues

[00:54:09] Risks if outcomes lag in-person

[00:56:33] Teachers union and school choice

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In this solo episode of Yet Another Value Podcast, host Andrew Walker introduces and unpacks his evolving investment concept: the Theory of Weird Markets. Andrew uses analogies from sports, AI, and Rubik’s Cube competitions to argue that traditional strategies in investing are increasingly obsolete. Instead, he suggests that in an age dominated by quant funds, AI, and machine learning, alpha lies at the edges—in unique, weird, or "N of 1" investment opportunities. This episode is part rough-draft, part invitation, as Andrew seeks listener feedback to refine the theory that will underpin much of his investing outlook for 2026.

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[00:00:00] Introduction and sponsor mention

[00:02:02] Overview of episode structure

[00:03:08] Theory of Weird Markets explained

[00:05:17] Stock market as ultimate competition

[00:09:09] Sports performance evolution examples

[00:10:00] Rubik’s Cube as improvement analogy

[00:13:11] Incentives in Rubik’s vs. investing

[00:15:09] Finance history proves competition

[00:17:30] Counterintuitive strategies dominate at scale

[00:18:42] AI and chess: new strategy insights

[00:20:00] AI poker strategy looks irrational

[00:21:16] Humans must embrace “weird” edge

[00:22:56] AI fails with unexpected variables

[00:23:26] Power demand as under-modeled opportunity

[00:24:35] Spinoffs and unique events as alpha

[00:25:28] Warner Bros. Discovery case study

[00:26:26] Management incentives and market edges

[00:27:10] Writer’s block and theory reflection

[00:28:21] Call for feedback and discussion

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Jon Boyar of Boyar Research for an (almost) annual discussion on the “Forgotten 40” — a curated list of 40 overlooked, value-oriented stocks. Jon outlines major 2025 themes including SMID caps and financials, before diving into deep valuations and sale potential for the Atlanta Braves, plus long-term positioning of Uber in an autonomous future. They also touch on media exposure, structural incentives, and the potential for corporate activism to unlock value in overlooked names.

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[00:00:00] Intro to podcast and guest

[00:02:53] History and aim of Forgotten 40

[00:04:14] Turnover and name selection for 2025

[00:05:13] Key 2025 themes: SMID & financials

[00:06:42] Financials overweight rationale explained

[00:08:07] Braves ownership, real estate, and thesis

[00:10:59] Tax code change and sale incentive

[00:12:09] Valuation math for Atlanta Braves

[00:15:13] Media rights and sale timing risk

[00:18:00] Malone incentives and sale complications

[00:22:27] MLB work stoppage risk and reward

[00:25:50] Baseball trends and geographic pull

[00:26:15] MSGS ownership, family dynamics

[00:29:53] Generational control and liquidity questions

[00:30:54] Mark Cuban sale as precedent

[00:33:36] Media names: fewer included this year

[00:35:11] Uber thesis: misunderstood and evolving

[00:37:25] AV risk vs strategic opportunity

[00:39:03] Valuation vs zero-risk scenario

[00:41:01] Eats vs Dash vs Instacart

[00:41:56] Consumer pushback and price sensitivity

[00:45:50] Waymo or Tesla acquisition logic

[00:49:17] Bonus pick: UniFirst & Cintas pursuit

[00:52:05] Activism, family dynamics, and valuation

[00:53:11] Wrap-up and links to Forgotten 40

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After a long hiatus, one of the people's most popular guests returns. Randy Baron ventures across the pond to talk about Victoria PLC. Victoria has run into hard times, driven by a bunch of debt and a vicious cyclical downturn, but Randy sees some light at the end of the tunnel and goes into all the ways the company can survive the downturn and the huge potential upside for the common stock if he's right.

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[00:00:00] Podcast and guest introduction

[00:01:59] Reintroducing guest Randy Barron

[00:02:43] Company overview: Victoria PLC

[00:05:16] Stock down 95%, what happened

[00:09:58] Audit issue worsens perception

[00:11:58] UK flooring market fragmentation

[00:15:23] Headlam distress affects Victoria

[00:16:40] Business story vs. distressed debt

[00:19:44] Victoria's debt breakdown

[00:21:04] Coke preferred equity explained

[00:25:54] Coke takeover rules in UK

[00:28:16] Preferred overhang and resolution

[00:30:22] Stock impact from deal structure

[00:33:02] Coke debt buyout possibility

[00:34:07] Cyclical vs. structural downturn

[00:36:36] Housing slowdown impacts demand

[00:37:32] 2028 bonds trade at heavy discount

[00:41:48] Asset sales to pay down debt

[00:43:01] Jeff Wilding's role and strategy

[00:47:28] Chairman’s capital allocation record

[00:48:01] Assessing market misjudgment

[00:50:19] UK market investment case

[00:51:46] UK stamp tax impact

[00:52:19] Making UK more investible

[00:54:38] Macro vs. valuation gap in UK

[00:55:16] Downside risk and cash flow

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