Mulan didn't quit when the army sent her home. She came back anyway — and saved all of China. What if that kind of grit is less about toughness, and more about knowing why you won't stop?

In this episode, Jacob Davis — tech entrepreneur, startup veteran, and CEO of WellTrio — joins Ryan Gregerson to talk about what success through not quitting actually looks like. His journey mirrors Mulan's: never quite fitting the expected mold, facing real adversity, and discovering that the refusal to quit — aimed in the right direction — is what separates people who find their purpose from those who don't.

🎯 3 ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS

1. Reframe the Obstacle — Ask "how do I get around it?" not "how do I bash through it?" The obstacle usually isn't the real problem.
2. Point Your Compass at Magnetic North — Define what you actually want, then check whether your actions are aligned. Stress is what happens when your values and actions stop aligning.
3. Talk About Your Problem — No one of us is as smart as all of us. In Mulan, the avalanche only happens because Shang listens. Your answer might come from someone you'd never expect.

WHAT YOU'LL LEARN

• When to push through versus when you're just on the wrong bus
• Why being different isn't a limitation — it's a superpower
• How Mulan's story is a blueprint for anyone who has never quite fit the expected mold

ABOUT JACOB DAVIS Jacob is CEO of WellTrio, a healthcare cost solution that has helped businesses cut costs by up to 68%. He was previously part of the team behind ERC Specialists, which scaled from idea to $1.6B in revenue in two years.

Connect with Jacob: 📱 TikTok: 📸 Instagram: 🌐 Website: 💼 LinkedIn:

ABOUT YES AND LAND Yes And Land explores the leadership lessons and hard choices hidden in the stories we love. Hosted by Ryan Gregerson — family law attorney at RCG Law Group, Disney enthusiast, and business coach at Altium Advisors. New episodes every Thursday.

#YesAndLand #DisneyAdults #DisneyPodcast #Mulan #NeverQuit #Grit #Entrepreneurship #PurposeDriven #HealthcareInnovation #WellTrio #Resilience #90sDisney #DisneyAnalysis

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Remember the Titans and the Character Ethic | Shea Owens on Stephen Covey's 7 Habits

What if the behaviors everyone tells you to fix aren't actually the problem? Remember the Titans shows us why. Coach Boone didn't win with a new playbook — he changed who his players were becoming. And that's exactly what divorce attorney and current part-time judge Shea Owens has witnessed across football fields, rural courtrooms, and a decade of navigating some of Utah's most complex legal terrain.

🎯 3 Actionable Takeaways

1. Change Your Paradigm First – Before trying to fix any conflict, try viewing it from a completely new angle. Why it works: Behavior change without a shifted perspective rarely sticks.
2. Identify What's at Your Center – Ask why you're really making the decisions you're making. Is it fear, money, or genuine values? Why it works: You can't align your actions with your values until you know what's actually driving you.
3. Write Your Personal Mission Statement – Define who you want to become, not just what you want to achieve. Why it works: It gives you a ladder — and makes sure it's leaning against the right building.

Using Remember the Titans as our lens, Shea and Ryan explore Stephen Covey's first three habits — Be Proactive, Begin with the End in Mind, and Put First Things First — and why Covey called these the "private victories." Featuring the iconic "attitude reflects leadership, captain" scene, the story of Coach Yost's character-driven decision to stay as assistant, the real-world story of the Cliven Bundy standoff, and what keeping commitments to yourself actually requires.

WHAT YOU WILL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE

• Why behavior change without character change almost always fails
• How Covey's first three habits mirror the story of T.C. Williams' integration season
• What "beginning with the end in mind" looks like in divorce, football, and a nonlinear career

ABOUT SHEA OWENS: Shea Owens is a family law attorney at RCG Law Group and a current part-time judge in Kane County, Utah. Before joining RCG, he spent nearly a decade on federal public lands law in Southern Utah, including navigating legal tensions during the Cliven Bundy standoff era. A former collegiate football player and lifelong Remember the Titans devotee, Shea brings a character-first lens to law, leadership, and life.

ABOUT YES AND LAND: Yes And Land explores the leadership lessons, relationship dynamics, and hard choices hidden in the stories we love. Hosted by Ryan Gregerson, a family law attorney at RCG Law Group, Disney enthusiast, and business coach for law firm owners at Altium Advisors, each episode connects familiar narratives to real-world wisdom you can actually use.

New episodes every Thursday.

#YesAndLand #DisneyAdults #DisneyPodcast #RememberTheTitans #7Habits #StephenCovey #CharacterEthic #LeadershipPodcast #AttitudeReflectsLeadership #BeProactive

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What if the pressure to look perfect online is the exact thing holding you back? Encanto shows us why. Mirabel's "lack" of a gift was actually her superpower. And that's exactly what Jana Oman discovered when she stopped copying other real estate agents and started being herself on TikTok.

🎯 3 Actionable Takeaways

1. List What Comes Naturally – Focus on what feels easy, not what you “should.” Why it works: Authentic strengths attract the right people; performed ones attract everyone else.

2. Post Stories, Not Reels – Share your day, food, or adventures. Why it works: Low-stakes practice helps you get comfortable on camera.

3. Watch Yourself Back – Notice how you move, talk, or flip your hair. Why it works: You can’t improve what you don’t see, and people already like you.

In this episode, Jana Oman, a real estate agent who built her business on TikTok, joins me to talk about what happens when you stop trying to fit in and start showing up as yourself. Her journey mirrors Mirabel in Encanto: tech career → pressured to cold call and door knock → realizing her “lack” of traditional skills was her edge → TikTok success by being authentically herself.

Using Encanto as our lens, we explore why Mirabel’s lack of a visible gift lets her truly see and hold her family together. Similarly, Jana’s choice to not fit the “successful realtor” mold is what made the right clients find her.

CHAPTERS:

0:00 - Introduction: Pressure to Look Polished Online

0:40 - Jana's Background: From Coding at Age 8 to Real Estate

4:35 - The Shift to Real Estate: "This Looks Easy"

9:10 - 🎬 ENCANTO CONNECTION: Feeling Like You Don't Belong

11:04 - What Gave Jana Courage to Keep Going

15:06 - The Uncomfortable Truth: Watching Yourself Back

19:51 - The Shift: "I Don't Care What Anyone Thinks"

21:13 - 💥 THE TIKTOK BREAKTHROUGH

22:48 - Why TikTok Rewards Authenticity

24:38 - 🎬 ENCANTO: Mirabel's Journey

28:48 - Mirabel's Real Gift: Love & Holding Family Together

30:02 - Louisa's Pressure: "Surface Pressure"

32:01 - Abuela's Role: When Gifts Become More Important Than People

33:14 - Finding What Comes Easy to You

44:37 - 🎯 3 ACTIONABLE TAKEAWAYS (Full Breakdown)

45:44 - List What Comes Easy, Start Posting Stories, Watch Yourself

ABOUT JANA OMAN:

Jana Oman is a real estate agent in Salt Lake and Davis Counties, Utah, who grew her business through authentic social media—especially TikTok. A tech whiz since age 8 and former systems administrator, she brings a smart, tech-savvy approach to marketing. Skipping cold calls and door knocking, Jana connects with clients through her personality, Harry Potter references, and genuine style. Fluent in English and Spanish, she helps first-time buyers and others discover what’s possible.

Connect with Jana:

📱 TikTok: [link (https://www.tiktok.com/@jana.oman)]

📸 Instagram: [link (www.instagram.com/janaoman_)] and Facebook: [link (www.facebook.com/janaomanarche)]

🏡 Website: [link (https://janasellsutah.com/)]

LinkedIn: [link (https://www.linkedin.com/in/janaoman/)]

💬 Continue the conversation:

- What are you overthinking about posting online?

- What comes naturally to you that you've been ignoring?

- Have you watched yourself back on video? (It's uncomfortable but necessary!)