What happens when the people around you are more talented than you?

Rita sits down with longtime friend and pioneering Vineyard worship leader Cindy Rethmeier for an honest conversation about comparison, insecurity, female leadership, creativity, and learning to recognize what only you can bring.

Cindy shares what it was like helping forge a path for women in worship, why increasingly talented musicians once intimidated her, and the lesson that eventually changed everything: comparison is deadly.

They also reflect on the early Vineyard worship movement, raising up people who eventually surpass you, the pressure to “keep up” in modern worship culture, and why the microphone was never supposed to be the goal.

If you've ever wondered whether you're talented enough, gifted enough, or qualified enough to lead the people around you, this conversation is for you.

00:00 Intro
01:15 Welcome Cindy Rethmeier
02:18 The Early Vineyard Movement
06:16 How Cindy Started Leading Worship
11:20 Discovering Her Calling
13:03 Women in Worship Leadership
17:01 Leading with Confidence & Authority
19:29 Leading When Others Are More Talented
20:17 Sponsor: Amazing Kids Curriculum
20:47 Knowing Who You Are
23:09 Has Worship Leadership Changed?
25:21 Finding Your Lane
27:08 Identity Beyond Ministry
31:16 Confidence, Risk & Calling
33:33 Comparison in Worship Ministry
36:10 John Wimber's Lasting Influence
39:55 Remembering Brian Doerksen
44:36 Comparison Is Deadly
48:16 Writing Songs Without an Agenda
52:21 Songs That Still Matter
56:11 Creating Every Day
58:39 Escaping the Pressure to Keep Up
01:02:09 Success vs. Calling
01:04:09 Advice for Young Women Worship Leaders
01:07:10 The Gift of Authenticity
01:08:37 Legacy, Grandchildren & What Matters Most
01:10:26 Final Thoughts & Closing

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Steven Curtis Chapman and Mary Beth Chapman have been married for more than four decades, but they'll be the first to tell you it hasn't been a fairy tale.

In this deeply honest conversation, Steven and Mary Beth join Rita to talk about the differences that once led a counselor to say they had “no business being married,” the devastating loss of their youngest daughter, Mary Beth's “free fall of faith,” and the decision to keep choosing each other through seasons that could have torn them apart.

They also unpack what they've learned about counseling, surrender, soulmates, parenting adult children, adoption, and discovering the goodness of God in life's darkest places.

Steven and Mary Beth's new book, Still Here: Life Together on the Long Way Home, tells the story of a marriage that isn't perfect, but by the grace of God, is still here.

00:00 Intro

01:08 Meet Steven Curtis Chapman and Mary Beth Chapman

04:13 Why They Wrote "Still Here"

10:21 Why They're Still Here After 41 Years

11:45 What Makes a Marriage Last?

17:08 Sponsor: Amazing Kids Curriculum

18:04 Counseling, Therapy & the Ultimate Counselor

27:20 Learning Surrender in Marriage

31:21 What Is a Soulmate?

33:18 Growing Through Life's Hardest Seasons

35:55 Losing Their Daughter & Holding Onto Faith

39:47 "It's Worth It" — Why They Stayed

42:55 Parenting Through Pain & Letting Go

53:13 Adoption, Show Hope & Seeing the Heart of God

1:01:07 How Show Hope Has Helped Over 10,000 Children

1:05:30 Final Thoughts & Where to Find the Book

1:07:03 Marriage, Grandkids & Growing Older Together

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Patrick Lencioni joins Rita Springer to unpack the life-changing concept of Working Genius, discovering the two kinds of work God uniquely designed you to love.

Together they explore burnout, calling, church leadership, parenting and why so many Christians feel like frauds when they're simply working outside their God-given design.

If you've ever wondered why some work energizes you and other work drains you, this conversation is for you.

00:00 Intro

00:59 Rita's Unexpected Catholic Leadership Gathering

03:56 Pat's Vision for Christian Unity

06:46 Why Unity in the Church Matters

10:28 The New Divide Among Christians

14:16 Sponsor – Amazing Kids Curriculum

15:12 Performance vs. Authentic Faith

17:17 Why Young People Are Returning to Catholicism

22:17 The Working Genius Explained

29:06 The Six Types of Working Genius

34:15 Putting People in the Right Roles

40:16 Burnout in Church Leadership

45:40 Helping Young People Find Their Calling

57:15 Discovering Your "Burning"

59:40 Gifts vs. Virtues

01:04:23 Healthy Churches & Faithful Leadership

01:05:31 The Future of Church Unity

01:06:18 Surrender, Suffering & Spiritual Growth

01:12:39 Where to Learn More About Working Genius

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