Carl Hall invites Leo, relationship coach and author of the upcoming book "The Echoes of the Father – The Search for the Lost Masculine".

Leo is also Carl's own relationship coach, which makes this a rare and personal conversation – Carl shares openly what a year and a half in the process has taught him about marriage, gratitude, and what it actually means to be a man.

Born in Iran and brought up in Sweden, Leo's journey took him from searching for elders in the park as a child, through plant medicine and a heart surgery that changed everything, to coaching individuals and couples full time.

He explains why guilt is the biggest blocker of the masculine, why most couple fights are never about the dishes, and why women are born initiated while men arrive like IKEA furniture – assembly required.

You'll also get his framework for the initiated man: the four M's – Muscle, Manners, Money, and Mission – and why the gym six days a week is non-negotiable.

Cash & Soul is not just another podcast. It's a journey into the soul of the corporate world and a dive into the business side of the spiritual realm.

Join entrepreneurial investor Carl Hall as he invites prominent business profiles and corporate leaders in Sweden and the Nordics to explore the connection between financial success and inner wellbeing.

Learn more about Leo: https://leopakkhoo.com/

Order Carls book: https://mondial.se/products/ormen-i-mig

Cash & Soul is produced by Navid Modiri: www.navidmodiri.com