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Why Some Women Choose Big Families: Hannah’s Children with Dr. Catherine Pakaluk - 10/09/2026

Why Some Women Choose Big Families: Hannah’s Children with Dr. Catherine Pakaluk - 10/09/2026

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Falling birth rates are now a global phenomenon, yet about 5 percent of American women still choose to have five or more children. On this episode of Making It Personal, Bishop William Joensen and Jeanne Thill sit down with Dr. Catherine Ruth Pakaluk, economist, associate professor at The Catholic University of America, Executive Director of the James Cardinal Gibbons Institute for Human Ecology, and mother of eight. They discuss her acclaimed book Hannah’s Children: The Women Quietly Defying the Birth Dearth.Opening reflectionsBishop Joensen marks the October feasts of St. John Henry Newman and St. Teresa of Avila (October 15). He reflects on Teresa’s teaching on perseverance in prayer, and how the same perseverance runs through the real-life stories of the mothers in Dr. Pakaluk’s book.Stories as social scienceData has long shown that church-going Christians and observant Jews tend to have more children and stronger marriages. What’s been missing is the why. Dr. Pakaluk explains how her qualitative, interview-based research brought the inner lives of these families to an academic world that rarely meets them, and why it has been received so well.Why “Hannah’s Children”?The biblical Hannah (1 Samuel 1–2) prefigures Our Lady and saw her children as her greatest blessing. Dr. Pakaluk says the common thread among the women she interviewed wasn’t a number of children. It was a biblical faith that sees children as transcendently good and as an overflow of divine life. She describes two paths into that openness: conversion or reversion, and those who grew up with it. She also stresses that the book’s message includes couples who have not been blessed with children.Policy, human ecology, and the willing heartDr. Pakaluk argues that fertility can be discouraged by policy but rarely encouraged by it. Examples range from China’s one-child policy to subtler barriers like unaffordable family housing. Governments can’t produce a willingness to do hard things, but faith can. The best thing the state can do is protect religious liberty and let churches flourish. Evangelization, she says as a scientist, is what moves the needle most.Purpose, sacrifice, and vocationThe conversation turns to Kobe Bryant’s ethic of purpose overcoming sacrifice, and to a mother’s advice to her daughter that vocation matters more than career. Dr. Pakaluk explains why God-given talents and the gift of motherhood can never truly be in conflict. Bishop Joensen connects this to the paradox of the cross: in giving themselves, these women receive themselves back.What’s next: the dadsDr. Pakaluk has interviewed 53 fathers for a sequel to Hannah’s Children, now in progress and expected to come together heading into 2027.Learn more at pakaluk.comMaking It Personal with Bishop William Joensen airs weekly on the Iowa Catholic Radio Network and the Spirit Catholic Radio Network. Listen anytime at IowaCatholicRadio.com.Support for Iowa Catholic Radio and Making It Personal is provided by Serra Vocations Ministry. Learn more at JoinSerra.org.#MakingItPersonal #BishopJoensen #CatherinePakaluk #HannahsChildren #BirthDearth #CatholicFamily #LargeFamilies #Motherhood #CatholicMom #OpennessToLife #FallingBirthRates #FaithAndFamily #CatholicRadio #IowaCatholicRadio #CatholicPodcast #CatholicUniversityOfAmerica #HumanEcology #ProLife #Vocation #Fertility Listen Live · Program Schedule · Our StationsLINKSYou can follow us on Facebook, Instagram, Youtube, Tiktok! More on our website.If you would like to support Iowa Catholic Radio you can donate Here! More from Iowa Catholic Radio:Sunday Dive with Katie PatrizioMan Up! with Joe StopulosCatholic Women Now with Chris Magruder and Julie NelsonThe Uncommon Good with Bo Bonner and Dr. Bud MarrBe Not Afraid with Fr. Fabian Moncada and Fr. Bruce RiebeBe Not Afraid en Español con el P. Fabián MoncadaMaking it Personal with Bishop William JoensenFaith and Family Finance with Gregory WaddleThe Great Men of the Bible with Joe Stopulos Liturgy & DevotionsThe Daily Gospel Reflection with Fr. Nick SmithThe Daily Mass from St. Francis of AssisiThe Daily Mass from St. Pius XThe Daily Mass from St. TheresaSunday Mass from the Basilica of Saint JohnWant to support your favorite show? Click Here Iowa Catholic Radio - Connecting People to Christ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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