Why Money Fights Are Really About Avoidance
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Most couples don’t fight about money. They avoid it until it leaks into resentment, sex, and every little decision. Jenn Pike and Chris Borsellino were in overdraft as a lifestyle — two kids, two businesses, ships passing — until they put every receipt in a basket and made money neutral. This is the conversation that shows how.
In this episode of The Sacred We, Mike Elliott and Courtney Wren-Mabbutt sit with Jenn Pike and Chris Borsellino — partners in life, business, and a decades-long experiment in making money safe to talk about.
They tell the real arc: overdraft as normal, Domino’s totals that shocked them, mason jars and a receipts basket, selling the truck for a Camry when pride said otherwise, and the moment looking at the numbers together changed their course. Along the way they name upper limiting when money finally arrives, pass-the-baton partnership, and the daily walks that became marriage therapy.
The teaching under the stories is simple and hard: avoidance is the fight. Structure creates flow. Money gets neutral when you turn toward it together instead of making each other wrong.
Guest resources:
Jenn Pike / The Simplicity Project:
https://jennpike.com/
Jenn on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/jennpike/
Chris Borsellino on Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/chrisborsellino/
Finance discovery with Chris:
https://calendly.com/chrisborsellino/60-finance-meeting
About Jenn & Chris:
Jenn Pike is a functional diagnostic nutritionist, founder of The Simplicity Project, and a longtime voice for women’s health, hormones, and embodied living. Chris Borsellino is a former custom carpenter turned financial advisor who helps families get clear on money without shame. Together they model what it looks like to build health and wealth as a shared practice.
Connect With Us:
The 2:2 Couples Container — private, intensive couples work with Mike & Courtney:
https://www.thesacredwe.com/2-2-container-details
Sign up for our couples list:
https://www.thesacredwe.com/thesacredwe
Bringing the Oracle to Him:
https://www.courtneywren.com/bring-your-oracle-to-him
Rebirth 1:1 with Courtney:
https://www.courtneywren.com/containers
Work with Mike:
https://www.itsmikeelliott.com/coaching
Email: transform@itsmikeelliott.com | relating@courtneywren.com
Instagram: @mikeelliott.relating | @courtneywren.relating