A woman wrote about her marriage ending like a house fire. She told her husband there was smoke. Nothing. A room is burning. Nothing. Half the house. Nothing. Only when she said this is the last room left did he finally move, and by then there was no house.

That story sits at the center of this one, and it explains something Cam said that I could not stop turning over: men process their whole lives on light switches. On or off. Fit or fat. Rich or broke. Fine, fine, fine, she wants a divorce. The check engine light being yellow does not count. It has to go red.

We came in planning to talk about weight and this took over instead.

In this one:

- Why "I asked you to take the trash out" is almost never actually about the trash, and what the real sentence underneath it sounds like

- The idea of space: who has it in a relationship, why it is rarely equal, and why "he should just know" is only obvious to the person who has it

- A couple from this season of Love is Blind who acted this out on camera, and what almost nobody watching correctly named

There's also a moment where I tell Cam about a man who spent ninety minutes listing what was wrong with me, and what he was actually trying to say underneath it.

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