What if empathy is burning you out as a leader? Cathy Maday sits down with Heather Hopkins to break down empathy vs. compassion in leadership and how to drive leadership accountability without guilt, over-functioning, or burnout.

Learn why jumping in the hole with your team backfires, how to hold behavioral accountability around boundaries, asking for help, and saying no - and how compassionate leadership keeps high standards without shielding your team.

Perfect for business owners and managers navigating accountability, team performance, and healthy boundaries.

If you enjoyed this episode's content, be sure to listen to our September 30th episode featuring Kristen Beatty-Graham, Sr. Vice President of IT at Viatris, for her full conversation with Cathy Maday.

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