Why are Canadians staying away from the US? 🇨🇦🇺🇸

'Over Here, Over There' co-host Claudia Koestler (‪@OverHereOverThere)‬ traveled to Port Angeles, Washington State, where you can see Canada across the water on a clear day. Victoria, British Columbia, is less than 30 kilometers away. For years, Canadians took the ferry over for events, shopping, and weekend trips. Many families have relatives on both sides, and even the ferry is owned jointly by Canadians and Americans. Since 2025, that has changed.

In this episode, Claudia talks with Marc Abshire, executive director of the Port Angeles Chamber of Commerce, at the local visitor center. He tells us honestly why fewer Canadians are crossing the border and what that means for a small American town that has always felt like Victoria's neighbor.

In this interview:

Why the "51st state" comments hurt the Canada–US relationship

How tariffs and the trade war are driving up costs for local businesses, and why constant uncertainty is even harder to deal with

Why Marc thinks Congress, not the White House, should decide on tariffs

His plan to market "Port Angeles as the southern suburb of Victoria," and why it's on hold for now

Is Canada turning away from the US, or just protecting its own interests?

Should Canada join the European Union?

Which European visitors still come to Olympic National Park, and why do fewer Germans come this year

His message to Canadians: "We welcome Canadians. We love Canadians."

What do you think? If you're Canadian, have you changed your travel plans to the US? Let us know in the comments. If you enjoy firsthand reporting from places where world politics affects everyday life, subscribe and turn on notifications.

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