Zimbabwean author Sue Nyathi wrote The Polygamist after observing the complicated relationships happening around her in Harare; married men, mistresses, "small houses" and women whose lives were unknowingly intertwined.
After struggling to find a traditional publisher, Sue eventually decided to publish the book herself.
More than a decade later, that same story has been adapted for the screen and introduced Sue's work to a whole new audience on Netflix.
In this episode, Sue joins me to talk about the real-life observations that inspired The Polygamist, what it feels like to hand characters you've lived with for years over to somebody else for a screen adaptation, and seeing her work find new life so many years after she first wrote it.
We also talk about her other novels, including The GoldDiggers and A Family Affair, the Zimbabwean experience of migration to South Africa, writing complicated and imperfect characters, and what it means to tell distinctly Zimbabwean stories while living away from home.
And, of course, we get into publishing - including the rejection that came before The Polygamist, choosing to back herself and self-publish, and what her journey says about getting your story out into the world even when the first answer is no.
This is a conversation about writing, representation, persistence and what can happen when you decide a story deserves to be told.
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