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This week on Where the Rubber Meets the Road, Pastor Rile Baucom, Preacher Tony Baucom, Phillip Bowers, and Chris Tucker tackle a question every growing church wrestles with: how do you get people from the pew into actually serving? With an average of 280 in attendance but far fewer plugged in, the guys walk through what it really takes to move someone from sitting to serving — starting with prayer for God to send laborers, serving with real joy and enthusiasm instead of going through the motions, and helping people discover their purpose by asking what they love and what they’re genuinely good at (even if, as they joke, it’s definitely not singing for some of them). They talk candidly about the danger of rushing someone into a role before they’ve healed or found their calling, and what true partnership looks like — leading by example, having each other’s backs, and building trust instead of tearing each other down. It’s a practical, heart-driven conversation for anyone wondering how their church, or they themselves, can move from just showing up to truly serving.

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This week on Where the Rubber Meets the Road, Pastor Rile Baucom, Preacher Tony Baucom, Phillip Bowers, and Chris Tucker get real about serving in ministry the mountaintops and the valleys, and everything in between. Drawing on Moses, Joseph, Hannah, Esther, and Paul, they talk about how it's usually the valley, not the mountain, where real growth happens. The guys share their own highs and lows: preaching a message that falls flat and hearing the devil whisper "you're a fool," pouring hours into a ministry only to see six people show up, watching people you've mentored walk away, and having to tell someone lovingly that a role just isn't their calling. They dig into the fundamentals that keep them steady you can't control people, lost people are going to do lost people things, ministry isn't measured by response, and you don't serve for a paycheck because the real payday is watching a life change. It's an honest, encouraging look at what it really costs, and what it's worth, to serve with a reminder that for every valley, there are two mountains.

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This week on Where the Rubber Meets the Road, Pastor Rile Baucom, Preacher Tony Baucom, Phillip Bowers, and Chris Tucker sit down for an honest conversation on depression — a topic they admit they're only scratching the surface of, but one too important not to talk about. They share sobering statistics (one in ten adults, and two in ten young people ages 9 to 18, dealing with depression) and push back on the idea that it's something people can just "get over," pointing to biblical figures like David, Jeremiah, and Elijah who wrestled with the same darkness. Phillip opens up in a deeply personal way about watching his wife battle depression for over five years, the maze of doctors and dead ends they faced, and the doctor God placed in their path who finally gave them answers and hope. The guys talk about the real causes behind depression — hereditary factors, chemical imbalances, and the weight of a stressful life — and why reaching out for help, whether to a friend, a pastor, or a doctor, is never a sign of weakness. Their message for anyone in the middle of it: help is on the way, and it shall come to pass.

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